3rd KING'S OWN HUSSARS

[3748 Hussar]

Left to Right

Offr's Sil/Gilt 2 peice badge ,Gilt over lay of the title ,3 Lugs E W S

Or's Pattern. Slider fixing

Offr's Bronze . 2 lug fixings

I believe these to be the real deal Does anyone have any coments !!

Tony

[3748 Hussar]

Left to right

3rd King's Own Hussars Offr's Sil/Gilt. Blade fixings to the rear

3rd King's Own Hussars Other ranks Bm. Lug fixings to the rear ( Marked gaunt London on the ground)

3rd The King's Own Hussars Offr's Sil/Gilt. Screw post fixings to the rear

3rd The King's Own Hussars Other ranks .Bm slider fixing to the rear.

Missing Sm Bronze variant ????????? Econ 1916 issue ?????. Anyone seen or have one .

Tony C

[Alan O]

Tony,

I have never seen one and even Gaylor's list (somewhat questionable) does not mention one. Personally I don't think they were made. Firstly the numbers required must have been very low for a single regiment. Secondly I stilll have yet to see a one-piece version of a tagged scroll badge that I belive is actually a true 1916 economy badge.

Alan

[3748 Hussar]

Hi Alan,

I have seen only one sm patteren very polished with collars, that make me feel its not right

Tony C

[Alan O]

Tony.

One thing missing is the anodised aluminium version which is shown in Peter Taylor's book Collecting anodised aluminium badge but not mentioned in Kipling and King.

They certainly exist but it seems doubtful that the 3rd hussars ever wore them. Were they issued, made but not issued and sold off or a fake made for the collectors market?
What is your view?

Alan

[3748 Hussar]

Hi Alan,

With reference to the AA badge 3rd Hussars. The story I herd ( Ex QOH) that

back in 1985 the QOH had its Tercentenary . The regiment ordered badges

for this event, when they turned up last minuite ! . The badges

read 3rd Hussars not "The Queen's Own Hussar "

These were sold in the PRI shop Catterick Garrison for wait for it £1 Yes ONE whole pound.

The 3rd Hussars never wore a AA Cap badge.

That's why I don't have an example in my 3rd/4th QOH collection.

Regards

Tony C

[Alan O]

Tony,

That is very interesting especially considering the prices some dealers are asking for them. I am pretty sure that the 3rd Kings own Hussars were not wearing a/a when they amalgamated.

The only thing I don't understand is why the QOH would want to order the same a/a badges, that were available from official sources and worn by the common soldiery, for a tercentenary (unless they actually wanted to get 3rd Kings Own Hussars a/a badges to sell to the old boys as commerative items?).

Many thanks

Alan

[3748 Hussar]

Hi Alan,

I have done some reserch reference this badge, I have tracked down the name of the PRI manager at the time . Iam confident that he will have all the info on the said badge . All I have to do now is to track him down.I last saw this chap 4yrs ago.

Tony C

[Luke H]

Originally Posted by 3748 Hussar

Left to Right

Or's Pattern. Slider fixing

I believe these to be the real deal Does anyone have any coments !!

Tony

Tony,

I'm not so sure about your ORs slidered version. It has the the thin deep dipping scroll in the centre, the thin ground which the horse is riding upon and the very smooth swan neck shape on the inside curl of the horses head/neck all of which you get with the restrikes.

I believe the slidered version should be exactly the same as your lugged version to the left (which is a lovely example btw) just with a slider in stead of lugs.

Luke

[3748 Hussar]

Hi there, thank you for your comments on the 3rd Hussar Or's slider striking badge. But I have to disagree with you hear . At first I thought this was an officers pattern with a slider fixing . I had this silver tested ! not Silver . Of the 25yrs of collecting I have only ever seen seen one of this quality . Including examples in collections of the Cavarly specialist in the UK . If your require close up and higher pic pixels photo drop me an E-mail. PS if you ever see one of better qual I will pay hundreds for it . but I doubt this would happen.

Tony C

[Luke H]

Hi Tony,

Have just checked out the dodgey ones on ebay and I believe I was wrong, I was judging the central dip in your scroll against the other pattern to the left which is a lot shallower, there are die differences with regards to the thickness of the scroll and horses mane. So I take back my earlier thoughts.

And yes I agree 100% it does have a really lovely patina.

Regards,

Luke

[dragonz18]

Can anyone give me the dates of wearing ,for this badge?
Silver Horse on red felt field,surrounded by bullion writing on blue velvet field.
For wear on scarlet field service cap, by Officers,RSM & Bandsmaster.
Had one that I traded on yesterday & the new owner would like some more details here.
Thanks ,in advance !
Cheers !
Steve

[3748 Hussar]

Hi there, this type of bullion badge was worn from as early as 1898 up to 1958, how old your one was depends on the horse pattern within the garter.
A pic of this badge would be helpfull in finding out its age !
If you have any other 3rd 4th 7th 8th Hussar interesting items you would like to trade Iam your man.
Loads of Genuine Cav Badges Yes Genuine not your normal run of the mill .bay crap

Regards tony

[dragonz18]

Thanks for that Tony. Will be returning to the same trade source again fairly soonish & will endeavour to take a pic.
Will see what I have for trades, but you will have to be patient ,as a lot of stuff is packed away am having difficulty finding a few things that I know are there ,somewhere. ?
Cheers !
Steve

[signalman]

Could i have some thoughts on this one please, im a little out of my depth with cavalry. Phil.