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13-09-09, 05:42 AM
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3RD DRAGOONS
Hi all,
I'm posting the pictures on behalf of Jo. aka Voltigeur. Repop or geniune badge? Thanks. 
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13-09-09, 02:40 PM
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IMO, I think this may well be a quite nice 'period piece', made by 'proper' local Indian badge makers ,under official/semi-official(?) arrangement by the Regt to replace lost items, whilst serving on the Indian sub-continent (far from home supply). So not really a normal crude 'bazaar'(street market) badge, as such?
It would depend on IF & WHEN this Regt served there, as to the time of manufacture,etc. Possibly the 1930's ? There are quite a few Regts that have similar pieces in their issue lineage. KDG's is one ,well discussed B4, I think. I also think that these deserve a place in collections, as they were likely issued(?) & worn on actual sevice, albeit non-regular MOD issue? It depends on how 'purist'(?) you wish to be with your collecting ? Would one disgard a theatre made ,sheet brass ,hand cut, Boer War title,for example?  Thoughts here ? Cheers ! Steve Last edited by dragonz18; 13-09-09 at 03:17 PM.
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13-09-09, 04:37 PM
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Thanks Andy and Steve, for your comments. I bought it on impulse and after further checking the badge I thought I had been s****d, but I started looking a bit more at the back.The one point that made me wonder were the two metal prongs holding the bottom banner. I didn't think anyone making repro would go to that much trouble for a badge.
Checking the internet this morning, the 3DG were in Cairo in 1914, being recalled to the UK in 1914, and spending the war with the 2nd Cavalry Division. Being disbanded in c.1922, I wonder what happened during the period 1919 and disbandment. Perhaps a pre war-time made badge...??? Again many thanks to Bwetdude for the pics,Andy and Steve. Jo 3rd Dragoon Guards (1747, from 4th Regiment of Horse); redesignated 3rd (Prince of Wales's) Dragoon Guards (1765); amalgamated to form 3rd/6th Dragoon Guards (1922); redesignated 3rd Carabiniers (Prince of Wales's Dragoon Guards) (1928)
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13-09-09, 06:27 PM
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Thanks Alan, that's interesting to know. Much appreciated.
Cheers Jo
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13-09-12, 06:10 PM
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Have said this in other posts, many Replacement Badges were made to Ordnance Contract via official War Office Guidelines for 'Local Purchase' of Equipment. It was not down to regiments to buy their own.
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14-09-12, 12:35 AM
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[QUOTE=Voltigeur;46767] Being disbanded in c.1922, I wonder what happened during the period 1919 and disbandment. Perhaps a pre war-time made badge...???
Jo My Grandfather was a Farrier in 3rd Troop, C Squadron, 3rd Dragoon Guards, having re -enlisted into the Army on, I believe, 4th August 1920 and from some notes of his kept in a small diary, he left England on 17th January 1921 and arrived at Sialkot, in the Punjab on 5th February 1921. I have some photographs of 3rd Dragoon Guards in Sialkot and also some showing them with 6th Dragoon Guards, still in India probably at the time of amalgamation. So it is highly probable that your badge is a locally made one. I do have my Grandfather's badge, he managed not to lose his and brought it home.  Regards Brian Last edited by Fatherofthree; 15-09-12 at 10:11 PM. Reason: Punctuation and spelling errors
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14-09-12, 12:46 AM
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Thank you very much Brian, that's the kind of information(s) I was looking for and appreciate.
Cheers Jo
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25-09-12, 06:44 PM
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3rd DG
Hello All; This may prove a fascinating forum for me - I appreciate being here. Recently acquired 1900 era 3rd DG Sgt's Red Stable Jacket, complete - short of the shoulder insignia, which I believe may have been a single strand of twisted cord, one end of which looped the shoulder button, while the "raw" end was sewn into the shoulder seam. Before my search for replacement begins for these items, I am curious if anyone is aware if I am accurate - and what color the braid (if it is braid) was? Very keen to get this correct. Should anyone have an idea where to acquire a period set - I would be interested. Thanks for any replies, and all the very best! Gary
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