23rd hussars

Gentlemen,

interested in the 23rd Hussars for years now, I would need tips or advice to be bale to spot (and buy) original cap badges from this regiment. Could someone help me please?


Thanx a lot.
All the best
Phil

[Chrisr]

LBHY,

Attached is a photo of mine which I believe is an original.

The points that have led me to assume this are:

• Sweat hole behind the crown,
• two sweat holes behind either end of the scroll, (however badges at this time could be made without sweat holes so these may not be clear indicators),
• strengthening bars linking the crown to the top of the H behind the slider,
• the braising material holding the slider on is a gold colour,
• the patina looks old,
• a good crisp stamping at the rear of the H, and
• it is quite solid.

There are others on the forum who know more about this badge than I do and they can either correct or support some or all of the above information.

[Deejayuu]

Chris, you have a lovely badge here and i would agree whole heartedly that it an original.
Cheers, Dave

[Chrisr]

Dave,

Thank you for your comment. Yes, it is a lovely badge - it has a really nice "feel" about it and one of my favourites.

Cheers
Chris

thanks a lot to both of you! I get one but the rear is a bit dfferent. Will take better pictures than the one I've just attached today and post them here so that you can see the difference. I'm afarid mine is a repro compared to yours.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by Chrisr

LBHY,

Attached is a photo of mine which I believe is an original.

The points that have led me to assume this are:

• Sweat hole behind the crown,
• two sweat holes behind either end of the scroll, (however badges at this time could be made without sweat holes so these may not be clear indicators),
• strengthening bars linking the crown to the top of the H behind the slider,
• the braising material holding the slider on is a gold colour,
• the patina looks old,
• a good crisp stamping at the rear of the H, and
• it is quite solid.

There are others on the forum who know more about this badge than I do and they can either correct or support some or all of the above information.

Hello Chris, Phil and everyone,
Chris cap badge is I think an original. The strengthening bars linking the crown to make it stronger is a fabric mark from Firmin if my memory is right. There is one other type of cap badge which is original, I remember the white metal H is an overlay which is fixed through three small holes on each side of the H brass base. Original OR's cap badges must have a slider. Collar badge has the same shape but is white metal and smaller and is fixed by two lugs N-S. Cheers. J-F

[Mike]

Siver and gilt version:

[2747andy]

Phil,
I fully endorse Chris's check list "Spot On"! I've put some images of mine on, it's rather shiny, the sweat holes are misaligned and the strengtheners look more rounded than Chris's but I think (hope) it's O.K?

Mike,
What a cracking S/G example, how or what softwear/method do you use to show both front and back of your badge in the same image?

Andy

Gents,
many thanks for the details and close ups. At least I know what I must look for. It confirms what I thought about mine, just a repro.
BTW? what is the average purchage price for such a cap badge? I'd like to know what to expect.

[Alan O]

A dealer will ask £12-15

Alan

[2747andy]

Alan,
I think that would be more like £25+ from a dealer!

Andy

[Chrisr]

LBHY,

Lew Shotton has one for 18GBP here.

http://freespace.virgin.net/lew.shotton/cavalry.htm

I understand he is regarded as a reliable dealer. All I have purchased from him seem OK to me.

Cheers
Chris

[Malcolm Davey]

Here is 3 different types that i have.
one is Firmins 6 sweat holes no strengthening bar.
two has 3 sweat holes plus strengthening bar.
Three has 4 sweat holes one under the slider at the crown and no strengthening bar.
so poss 3 different makers, members opinions welcomed.

Malc

I have found a Firmin one, obviously good if I read well?

[jim a]

I like this badge but the condition seems almost to good to be true. I also like the reinforcing rods and the braize holes .