Victorian Royal Welch Fusiliers Officer's Fur Cap

[keflin2612]

Hi Fellow badgers,
I have a Victorian Royal Welch Fusiliers Officer's Fur Cap with a white horse hair plume, could some kind sole tell me if the plume is correct for that period and would an officer's plume be of horse hair or should it be feathers.
Cheers.

Kev.

[JerryBB]

Originally Posted by keflin2612

Hi Fellow badgers,
I have a Victorian Royal Welch Fusiliers Officer's Fur Cap with a white horse hair plume, could some kind sole tell me if the plume is correct for that period and would an officer's plume be of horse hair or should it be feathers.
Cheers.

Kev.

Kev, I can't answer your questions but I would be very pleased if you could show inside/underneath the cap.

[2747andy]

Kev
Nice hat, but sorry not able to answer your question, me on my own or the fish

Andy

[tonyb]

Hello Kev attached is a photo taken in the RWF museum Cearnarfon Castle.
Don't remember age of busby, however it is an Officers and has a feather hackle.
Cheers Tony.

[Tigerlily]

Originally Posted by 2747andy

Kev
Nice hat, but sorry not able to answer your question, me on my own or the fish

Andy

Oh Andy your sense of humour is never out of plaice


It's a very nice hat, as Jerry says would be good to see pics of the inside. Really nice though, I'm most envious.

Alli

[Peter Brydon]

I am almost certainly missing something but Dress Regulations 1900 only appear to mention plumes for the Northumberland Fusiliers and Royal Irish Fusiliers ( para 602 ).

P.B.

[keflin2612]

Hey guys thanks for all the input and info.
Here's a shot of the inside, best I can do I'm afraid.
Cheers.
Kev.

[41st]

The first mention I can find in my records of the plume being worn in the bearskin dates from 1822 and refers to white feathers being worn at the side. Three white feathers being previously worn by the officers on their caps. In 1826 the dress regulations of that year stated that the feathers on the bearskin cap were to be 12 inches long. The officers' seem to have changed to a raccoon skin cap in 1872 and were ordered to wear a white cut feather plume 6.5 inches high on the right side from 1900. Hope that helps.

[jf42]

As a follow-up to this thread, the 'Victorian' fusilier cap dates from 1866, after 22 years during which all fusilier regiments wore the shako. After 1866 only the 5th Northumberland Fusiliers wore a plume in the fur cap (on the left), the red-over-white distinction granted to the 5th Northumberland Regiment in 1829. For the other regiments, a grenade badge sufficed.

When, circa 1900-03, the other fusilier regiments adopted plumes for the full dress cap, the default colour, worn by the Royal Fusiliers, Royal Scots Fusiliers and Royal Welsh Fusiliers (on the right), was the original white 'grenadier' feather adopted by fusiliers in the late 18th century, made regulation in 1800-02 and worn in the fur cap until the shako was ordered in 1844. The Lancashire Fusiliers, a 'new' fusilier regiment, adopted 'primrose yellow' plumes to commemorate the facings of the old 20th Regt, the various Irish fusilier regts chose a range of colour schemes to do with their pre-Childers (1881) or regional identities.