ww2 german badges for id

[badgecollector]

hi guys
been offered these by a friend.
firstly, what are they?
are they genuine?
what are they worth and is anyone interested in them?
pm me if interested
bc

[daverpol]

No.2
WW2 Kriegsmarine Mine Sweepers Badge
http://www.manions.com/archive/artic...er%20badge.htm

No.3
This looks like the side emblem from the Afrika Korps pith helmet.
http://www.bwmilitaria.com/items/884...4817store.html

[badgecollector]

thanks daverpol
interesting links you sent me to.
thanks again
bc

[daverpol]

I think the pith helmet badge had been "modified" at some time.
The original fixing was with two or three "prongs" into the helmet.
The National Colours shield would have been worn on the other side.

[David Tremain]

The first one is possibly a Luftwaffe other ranks cap badge. It looks like a post-war one I have (mine is without the swastika). I'm open to other opinions on that though since I'm not a German badge collector. David

[JON188]

HI mate, i personally think that they are all wrong.
They look like lead type metal to me, and the DAK helmet shield is VERY crudely made.
I may be wrong, try the Wehrmacht Awards Forum as they will be all over them like a tramp on chips, but i wouldnt touch them with a bargepole myself.
regards
jON

[paj1]

1st and 2nd badges look like post war repos, not sure about
3rd badge. best to avoid them.
regards julian

[cossack]

The first two are REALLY poor copies, I would just avoid them all!

[lancashirefusilier]

Originally Posted by JON188

HI mate, i personally think that they are all wrong.
They look like lead type metal to me, and the DAK helmet shield is VERY crudely made.
I may be wrong, try the Wehrmacht Awards Forum as they will be all over them like a tramp on chips, but i wouldnt touch them with a bargepole myself.
regards
jON

I also think that the first two are lead alloy copies.If you get a chance to handle them put them under some slight pressure and look at the results...then smile sweetly at the seller
ATB
Dave

[badgecollector]

Originally Posted by lancashirefusilier

I also think that the first two are lead alloy copies.If you get a chance to handle them put them under some slight pressure and look at the results...then smile sweetly at the seller
ATB
Dave

hi dave
there not led. they dont bend and are of solid but lighter construction than if in led.
i must say i am supprised if these are modern copies as they came from a collection of ww2 badges including many italian, british, south african and all are genuine.
anyway, i bow to your opinions as i have no idea of german badges and to be honest have little interest in them.
cheers
bc

[lancashirefusilier]

Originally Posted by badgecollector

hi dave
there not led. they dont bend and are of solid but lighter construction than if in led.
i must say i am supprised if these are modern copies as they came from a collection of ww2 badges including many italian, british, south african and all are genuine.
anyway, i bow to your opinions as i have no idea of german badges and to be honest have little interest in them.
cheers
bc

Hello bc

If you have them in hand and they do not bend then please ignore my post.
A good lesson for me passing judgement from photos only.
Have a good weekend
Dave

[badgecollector]

hi dave
they are made of a zinc material i think. they are not led and are very solid.
thanks for your comments. i suppose they could look like led from the pics.
bc

[jim a]

As Jon pointed out the Wehrmacht Awards Forum is the place to check out anything German related... be it helmets, uniforms, firearms ,ordnance, medals and of course badges. There are a pile of experts in every area and if they are restikes / copies they'll let you know.... I personally try and stay away from German items as they are heavily copied and some of those copies are very convincing. If you have items you are considering buying it's worth your time to research it on that forum as there are plenty of threads with examples available on just about everything. My first thoughts on all three of your badges is that they aren't good.... but again I would defer to the WAF

[hagwalther]

Hi Guys.

The Minesweeper and Sub-Chasers badge is in my opinion an original piece probably made by Adolf Scholze from around 1942 onwards.

The material content is zink with the correct ball hinge, needle and crimped clasp as used by this maker.

Condition is quite poor though and pieces like this, by this maker are found in much better condition for around the 120 Euro mark.

I cannot speak for the other items as they do not make up my collecting brief.

Regards

Chris

[hagwalther]

Hi Guys,

Here is my Schwerin made, tombak Minesweeper badge.

Note the fire gilding to the wreath - this is found on all the early Kriegsmarine badges.

Tombak material badges are the ones to get if available. Zink badges eventually lose their finish by repelling the coloured finish hence the almost grey all over colour of the original posting.

Regards

Chris