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Old 03-10-13, 06:43 AM
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Unfortunately the photograph was only captioned ‘the 5/6th North Staffords about to embark for the annual camp 1st to 8th July’

What I can see is the soldiers wear the 47 pattern BD uniform, 37 pattern webbing and carry the No4 Enfield rifle. The 4th and 5th soldier look like they could be in the Catering Corps.

The Ship Mona's Isle, I have found a web site http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/IOM_Monas_Isle5_1951.html which shows the ship with a white top rail dated 1951. Services:- From Douglas (Isle of Man) to Liverpool (all year). Seasonal services from Douglas to Belfast, Dublin, Ardrossan, Heysham, Llandudno. Excursions Liverpool-Llandudno. 2490 tons, 345ft long, 2393 passengers.

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The BD in the photo is the 1949 pattern. The 1947 pattern has much larger collars.
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Old 03-10-13, 12:55 PM
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I happen to own one of these cap-badges to the 5/6 Staffs. Bought it in a postal auction a few years ago.

It is cast metal, probably made from electroplated cast zinc, but not a genuine AA cap-badge.

Biggest dud I ever bought in my life. Paid a fortune for it and as soon as I received it knew I'd been duped. It was advertised as 'anodised'. Foolishly perhaps, I assumed this to mean AA.

The very famous dealer involved ('every item guaranteed genuine') wd not accept a return under any circumstances. He sent me a copy of the picture shown earlier in this thread, of a Staffs unit marching next to a ship, as 'proof' the badge is as advertised.

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Old 04-10-13, 08:51 AM
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William,

Thank you for taking the time to show it. On the positive side at least you know that the 5/6 Stafs did wear this badge design. On the negative side records show that it was entirely unofficial and not approved and no badge was officially sanctioned or produced in a/a.

This does however possibly increase the chance of yours being an unofficially procured badge correct to the period. Whether you would ever be able to sell it for anything like the price originally paid, is another matter I am afraid.

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Old 04-10-13, 09:57 AM
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William That is the same as I got from bosleys said to be the one shown in Kings book and from his collection I thought the same as you that it was A/A
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I have one as well. !!!!!
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Old 04-10-13, 12:30 PM
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I have one as well. !!!!!
Also from Bosley?
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Old 04-10-13, 01:49 PM
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I do not have one.

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Old 05-10-13, 12:48 PM
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The very famous dealer involved ('every item guaranteed genuine') wd not accept a return under any circumstances. He sent me a copy of the picture shown earlier in this thread, of a Staffs unit marching next to a ship, as 'proof' the badge is as advertised.
How does that prove that its authentic ,if all its showing is a picture ? Its could be made from anything !

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Old 05-10-13, 02:25 PM
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Well spotted, Mike!

I'm with you all the way. Unfortunately Mr B doesn't agree.

All the best.
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Old 05-10-13, 02:27 PM
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I do not have one.

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Marc, If only you had some really, really rare AA cap-badge to swap, we cd do a deal!

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Old 05-10-13, 09:27 PM
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Well spotted, Mike!

I'm with you all the way. Unfortunately Mr B doesn't agree.

All the best.
I bet he would if it was someone elses money,or he was buying it from someone.
"Fake Staffs badge £2 for that" becomes very rare a/a 5/6th Staffs badge £200 for that on the next auction list
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