Rhodesian slip on and titles - British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

loupie1961 · #1 25-05-14, 12:44 PM

Some Rhodesian epaulette slip ons and titles. One is the 6th SA Armoured Division slip on epaulette I have already posted in another thread http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ad.php?t=38131
the other is an epaulette slip on badged to the 17th Rhodesian Field Battery, that formed part of 1/6 Field Regiment. The two titles are one metal arc title and a cloth one, worsted in red on green, possibly a RAF or British Army nationality volunteer title? What's your opinion? Thank you in advance, gents!

Madziro · #2 27-05-14, 08:18 AM

These are excellent examples. I collect Rhodesian titles in general up to 1980 and have attached images of what is in the collection. The last one was a recent addition and has not yet been included in the table diagram.

loupie1961 · #3 27-05-14, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Madziro

These are excellent examples. I collect Rhodesian titles in general up to 1980 and have attached images of what is in the collection. The last one was a recent addition and has not yet been included in the table diagram.

Very interesting! What does the acronym stand for?

manchesters · #4 27-05-14, 04:39 PM

Did they have any Artillery Units?
What did they wear?

regards

Brian Conyngham · #5 27-05-14, 08:39 PM

Simon

17th Field Bty see 1st chart (cap badge very rare). They also had an anti-tank Bty which I believe used a small version General Service badge as a beret badge, experts please correct me if I am wrong. From a source here in Durban I was told that many versions of shoulder titles could be found being worn in WW2.

A lot of Rhodesians also served in SA Artillery units, and hence wore their insignia.

The Rhodesian Artillery UDI period I believe wore a SRA in brass and Fire Guilt for officers. The Rhodesian beret "gun badge" was smaller than other countries. Conditions were not condusive for artillery in the Bush War and thus this was a small unit and insignia a little more scarce than the rest.

Brian

manchesters · #6 27-05-14, 08:45 PM

BNrian,

I should have put my glasses on!

Thanks for the prompt.

Is that a metal title with a red backing or cloth, cant quite tell.

Do you have a photo of the cap badge or point me towards one please?

regards

Brian Conyngham · #7 27-05-14, 08:51 PM

Simon

Yes, they were sheet brass with raised letters.

I have a 17th Field Bty at home, I am at work let me see if I can find a pic.

Found one but not clear, it is the badge at the bottom in the shape of a shield in the middle. Link to my artillery collection, http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...y+badge+boards it is now a lot bigger, need to mount the others.

Appologies to Loupie for hi-jacking thread.

Brian

manchesters · #8 27-05-14, 10:04 PM

Excellent,

Thanks Brian

Milmed · #9 28-05-14, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by loupie1961

Very interesting! What does the acronym stand for?

Hi Loupie,
I believe WVAF = Womans Volunteer Air Force

Steven

Milmed · #10 28-05-14, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Madziro

These are excellent examples. I collect Rhodesian titles in general up to 1980 and have attached images of what is in the collection. The last one was a recent addition and has not yet been included in the table diagram.

Hi Dudley,
Would it be possible to see a better scan of the SRANS title please.

Thanks
Steven

Madziro · #11 28-05-14, 10:42 AM

Steven, this is the best scan I have presently of this title. It is hand made from sheet brass and blackened. It appears to be in the exact same style of manufacture of Keays the Jewellers in Salisbury and I am sure was made there. If you need a better scan and of the reverse, please let me know and I will do one for you.

Regards

Dudley

Madziro · #12 28-05-14, 10:47 AM

This is the cap badge of the 17th Bty and the bty shoulder title is the straight brass one with red paint first posted on a 6th SA Armoured Div slip on, for interest.

Milmed · #13 28-05-14, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Madziro

Steven, this is the best scan I have presently of this title. It is hand made from sheet brass and blackened. It appears to be in the exact same style of manufacture of Keays the Jewellers in Salisbury and I am sure was made there. If you need a better scan and of the reverse, please let me know and I will do one for you.

Regards

Dudley

Thanks Dudley,
The scan is good and a very nice title I was not aware of. A picture of reverse would be nice when you have an opportunity. Did Keays also do the SRMC title? and I wonder if they did a Nursing Service Cap badge like the Medical Corps cap badges?

Steven

ruwa · #14 28-05-14, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Madziro

These are excellent examples. I collect Rhodesian titles in general up to 1980 and have attached images of what is in the collection. The last one was a recent addition and has not yet been included in the table diagram.

A really nicely displayed collection!! For interest, in your 4th frame, 3rd & 4th down are two ARMY printed titles - the smaller version was first worn on the two upper arms & was replaced by the larger one which was worn above the right hand pocket. It was said that the reason for the change was as a result of the blue jobs ragging the army bods by pointing to the upper arms & calling out Army, Army !!!!!!

loupie1961 · #15 29-05-14, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Madziro

This is the cap badge of the 17th Bty and the bty shoulder title is the straight brass one with red paint first posted on a 6th SA Armoured Div slip on, for interest.

Madziro, so the cap badge reported by Owen is not correct? How many such cap badges could have been produced? and were?