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#1
10-04-10, 04:59 PM
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Royal Munster Fusiliers -Pagri or Fur Cap
Learned colleagues,
I bought this one in Bangor today. Seemed to be a good one, and wasn't too dear either. I'm just not sure if it is a pagri badge or a fur cap grenade. It has a rather badly repaired slider on the rear, which makes me think it isn't a fur cap grenade. It would certainly be well worth a repair. Any idea what length of slider would be on it? Any info or opinions strongly welcomed. John 
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10-04-10, 05:18 PM
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Folks,
Sorry - wrong regiment. Should be Royal Munster Fusiliers John
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11-04-10, 12:15 AM
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John
It looks like a good badge to me with no sign of ever having loops. I would say a good badge for the pagri of the FSH. Probably pattern number 5869 of 1903 which was fitted with a slider for the foreign service helmet. John
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11-04-10, 10:18 AM
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John, Based only on the length of those you find on HPC type "pagri" badges, the shanks were about 60mm long. In your case, it looks as though the original broke off and was replaced and then perhaps itself clipped ???? Personally I wouldn't "repair" it, it's clearly old and thus part of the badge's 'history' !
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#7
11-04-10, 05:14 PM
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Glengarry
With this type of flames i would say a glengarry badge. Could have been converted to a FSH badge with the slider attaches.
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#8
11-04-10, 05:31 PM
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I am very interested in your comments about a possible different flame pattern for the RMF FSH, could you elaborate please? As an aside below is an RDF grenade in my collection fitted with a long slider for wear in the Pagri. John
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#9
11-04-10, 06:13 PM
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Flames
I think the flames on fusiliers glengarry badges are the same shape, as the badge in question. Fur cap grenades have long curved flames, pagri grenades have shorter (than fur cap) flames white a quite straight.
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#10
11-04-10, 09:53 PM
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Oh I see, I agree this is not a Full Dress grenade badge. I miss understood your post to mean that you knew of a different flame pattern for the FSH than that of the so called "glengarry grenade". John
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#11
12-04-10, 03:27 PM
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I'm going to try and get it repaired, but using the shank that is on it. The join that is currently on it is really poor, and is ready to fall off at any time. I don't mind it being clipped, as that appears to be a common enough modification, and I have quite a few clipped examples in my collection. I think it is too good a badge to leave in that condition. Really interesting info on the FSH badges. I might even start buying a few. I will certainly keep my eyes peeled for more. Probably not as cheap as that one though.
John
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#12
14-04-10, 01:22 PM
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The badge is away for repair, and it is getting a new slider of the correct length. The one that was soldered on to it, was a home made effort, which was wrong size and all.
Wait out for new pics John
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#13
18-04-10, 08:30 AM
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Royal Munster Fusiliers Pagri Badge
Here is the repaired badge with repaired long slider courtesy of DaveC2. I reckon it looks superb.
Reactions please! John
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#15
18-04-10, 03:26 PM
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Cheers Malc
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