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CHRIS, I have just brought the following badge:-
SMALL ARMS SCHOOL CORPS silver A/A with maker MARPLES & BEASLEY.
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CHRIS, I have just brought the following badge:-
SMALL ARMS SCHOOL CORPS silver A/A with maker MARPLES & BEASLEY.
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Thanks Jerry!!!

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Hi Chris,
1 more
The Royal Irish Regt. Marples & Beasley
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The Royal Irish Regt. Marples & Beasley
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Hi UKBrits,

Which one?

Gold, silver or caubeen (lugs) - although two share the same pattern no (gold and silver (for some reason - looks like shade don't come into it for this particular badge)) all three have different NSN's.

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Hi Chris,
This Marples & Beasley badge actually looks more like the old gold Ulster Defence Regt cap badge but in silver?
I don't know if this is a Royal Irish badge or not now, or just a manufacturers cock up!
Anyway I have posted a pic so you can see for yourself. There is a gold U.D.R badge on the left, the silver Marples & Beasley a/a badge is in the centre & for comparison a Royal Irish Regt badge is on the right.

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Hi Chris,
This Marples & Beasley badge actually looks more like the old gold Ulster Defence Regt cap badge but in silver?
I don't know if this is a Royal Irish badge or not now, or just a manufacturers cock up!
Anyway I have posted a pic so you can see for yourself. There is a gold U.D.R badge on the left, the silver Marples & Beasley a/a badge is in the centre & for comparison a Royal Irish Regt badge is on the right.

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Hi UKbrits,

Its a Royal Irish Regiment (Gold) for use with the beret.

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Hi Chris,
This badge is 100% silver a/a not gold which can be seen on the pic from my previous post.
Perhaps a factory cock up?
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This badge is 100% silver a/a not gold which can be seen on the pic from my previous post.
Perhaps a factory cock up?
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In 1993 the gold cap badge was "inherited" from the Ulster Defence Regiment when the Royal Irish Regiment was formed from the UDR and the Royal Irish Rangers. It was initially worn in the rifle green beret but a silver finish badge was worn in the Caubeen with a green hackle. I believe that the beret is no longer worn (following a decision when Lt Col Tim Collins was CO of 1 R IRISH) so the gold badge is obsolete?

More help from the Irish collectors please?
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In 1993 the gold cap badge was "inherited" from the Ulster Defence Regiment when the Royal Irish Regiment was formed from the UDR and the Royal Irish Rangers. It was initially worn in the rifle green beret but a silver finish badge was worn in the Caubeen with a green hackle. I believe that the beret is no longer worn (following a decision when Lt Col Tim Collins was CO of 1 R IRISH) so the gold badge is obsolete?

More help from the Irish collectors please?
Sounds right. The Caubeen badge now has lugs and is described as such.

A/A collectors of the Royal Irish Regiment need gold and silver with slider and silver with lugs for a full 'set'. All have different NSN's.

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Hi Chris,
One more for the collection - 13th / 18th Hussars
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Hi UKbrits,

Its a Royal Irish Regiment (Gold) for use with the beret.

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What's the difference between a UDR cap badge and a Royal Irish Regiment (Gold).

Aren't they both the same?
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RAOC (All Silver)
WRAC (All Gold)
Yorkshires (All Gold) Black-painted scroll and crown (thanks, Peter)



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What's the difference between a UDR cap badge and a Royal Irish Regiment (Gold).

Aren't they both the same?
Hi William,

From Appendix 4 - Authorised Cap Badges

Royal Irish Regiment (27th (Inniskilling) 83rd and 87th and Ulster Defence Regiment) - [Silver]

CB No./NSN 1. 8455-99- 978-8769

Pattern No. 1. 24647

1. With vertical shank for use with the beret.


Royal Irish Regiment (27th (Inniskilling) 83rd and 87th and Ulster Defence Regiment) - [Caubeen]

CB No./NSN 1. 8455-99- 978-8770

Pattern No. 1. 29261

1. Documented as NSN 8455-99-978-8770 being the same colour as NSN 8455-99-978-8769 (Royal Irish Regiment (27th (Inniskilling) 83rd and 87th and Ulster Defence Regiment) - [Silver]) but with lugs specifically designed for use with the Caubeen.


Royal Irish Regiment (27th (Inniskilling) 83rd and 87th and Ulster Defence Regiment) - [Gold]

1. With vertical shank for use with the beret.
2. Authorised to wear the badge of the Ulster Defence Regiment.
3. Believed to have been deemed obsolete in early 2000ís via a decision by Lt. Colonel Tim Collins (Commanding Officer) of the 1st Battalion, Royal Irish Regiment (27th (Inniskilling) 83rd and 87th and Ulster Defence Regiment).


Ulster Defence Regiment

CB No./NSN 1. 8455-99- 122-9996

Pattern No. 1. 20192

1. See also the Royal Irish Regiment (27th (Inniskilling) 83rd and 87th and Ulster Defence Regiment) - [Gold].


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RAOC (All Silver)
WRAC (All Gold)
Yorkshires (All Gold) Black-painted scroll and crown (thanks, Peter)



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Hi William,

The first two badges are factory errors amd the Yorkshire one is an unfinished badge.

REgards

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Old 09-12-11, 06:06 AM
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So these two are the same badge?



Royal Irish Regiment and Ulster Defence Regiment) - [Gold]

1. With vertical shank for use with the beret.
2. Authorised to wear the badge of the Ulster Defence Regiment.


Ulster Defence Regiment

CB No./NSN 1. 8455-99- 122-9996

Pattern No. 1. 20192

1. See also the Royal Irish Regiment (27th (Inniskilling) 83rd and 87th and Ulster Defence Regiment) - [Gold].
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