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Old 07-09-16, 08:35 AM
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Default LRDG Fakes at Lockdales

Potential buyers beware Lockdales at Martlesham Suffolk are selling a collection of LRDG items. I have examined each lot, they are fakes and designed to deceive.

Sale 17th & 18th September

Lot 235
Badges LRDG a pair of Lieut shoulder straps with LRDG brass sand locally produced on campaign cast titles affixed. Estimate: 140 - 150 GBP

Lot 236
Badges LRDG a sand cast brass cap badge made on campaign, GVF Estimate: 140 - 150 GBP

Lot 237
Badges LRDG an Egyptian Hallmarked Officers silver cap badge in an Egyptian Cairo Jewellers case, reverse numbered. Estimate: 470 - 480 GBP

I have contacted the auctioneers about the fakes but my messages have been ignored. I fear the auctioneers are more concerned about their profit margin than the implications of being known as a clearing house for fakes...

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Old 07-09-16, 09:45 AM
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I have received the following reply from Lockdales and must commend their prompt action:

Hi Keith

Thank you for your email, we have looked at all three lots listed, and we understand the points you have raised, after speaking with the vendor, the lots have been withdrawn.

We have taken note of your entry on the badge forum and we understand that everyone is entitled to an opinion . However we feel that the last sentence is rather unfair as we have been running this auction for 20 years with very little trouble regarding lots . There are normally over 3000 lots per sale and we just can't verify everything !

Once again thank you for the info

Regards

James Sadler (Auction Manager)
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Old 07-09-16, 09:58 AM
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Good on you and the auctioneers.

Nice to know that an individual can sometimes make a difference! You have probably saved someone wasting hundreds of pounds!

Roger
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Old 07-09-16, 04:08 PM
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Cool Lockdales

To be fair to the auctioneers ( I have no connection with them) they seem to have acted in an honest fashion and anyone who sells at auction that has not had an SF item presented to them that was 100% original can be in the minority of sellers.

popskipa has acted with the true spirit of the forum and I for one applaud his actions, but remember auctioneers are not necessarily experts on the subjects of SF badges.

Rob
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Old 07-09-16, 04:55 PM
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Good to see that Lockdale's acted on your advice Keith. An honourable and satisfactory outcome!
Mike
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Old 07-09-16, 05:55 PM
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Good to see that Lockdale's acted on your advice Keith. An honourable and satisfactory outcome!
Mike
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Old 07-09-16, 07:57 PM
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Default good to see

I had a similar experience with Harvey's. I went to their viewing day to look at some Lance caps I gave them a close inspection took some detail photos. At home and at my leisure I spent 3 days checking over them and listed the help of some friends.
Turned out the 17th plate was doctored I rang them told them my findings and to be fair as the lot came up the auctioneer made it very clear that the plate had had the battle honours removed.
Good to see not always about the money.

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Well done cobber
I am putting your name forward as an honorary Australian
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Old 08-09-16, 04:43 AM
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Lockdales is very popular among overseas militaria collectors (including me!) and some of them are prepared to pay good money for genuine lots (including me!). It is never in their interest to sell fake items. In any event, they have to take the items back if the items turn out to be fake. They cannot afford bad PR as competition for good lots are very fierce.

What I would like to see is DNW pulling all their repro lots in their upcoming auction. As someone says, fakes should be stamped out and putting them back into the market as reproduction (essentially fake however people spin it) is not going to help. DNW is very reputable and I honestly do not understand why they need a very small commission for such rubbish lots.

For me, selling fakes is also incredibly disrespectful of all those people who wore the genuine ones to war risking their life for a worthy cause. Fake Chanel handbags, I can handle. Not fake badges or other militaria items, and most definitely not fake items from the First World War. Those items really really upset me and I don't know why.
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