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06-11-08, 03:10 PM
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Early Pattern Jump Wings
Hello Bill. I may be off-topic with this but, I thought it might be interesting to show your first wings worn by a Canadian.It took me a long time to find this pic.
Regards Jo http://collectionscanada.gc.ca/pam_a...opy=a209535-v6
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06-11-08, 03:45 PM
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Hi Bill.Can't tell you why this officer is wearing this wing but, after asking Lou Grimshaw, he wrote to say these were wings were from the 3rd R Australian Regt. I first thought this officer might have been one of the Canadians sent to Australia,in '45, as part of the Special Wireless unit sent there. Can't find anything on him. One more of life's mysteries????? Another point. His badge is for the RCCS and the pic is listed for the RCASC ???? Maybe one of our Aussie colleague can help????
Jo
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06-11-08, 04:00 PM
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Sorry Bill, his name doesn't appear anywhere I checked. Also, Cheng is supposed to be the "Smiths" in China or something similar. LAC is not very useful in this case. Just thought of something...Force 136.??????
Jo
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06-11-08, 04:24 PM
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Bill I sent an email to the Chinese Canadian Military Museum just now, Maybe they can help ????
Furthermore, his name is not on the Nominal Roll ??? of 1 Canadian Special Wireless Group. http://www.troywoodintarsia.com/1cswg/NomRoll1CSWG.html Jo
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06-11-08, 08:38 PM
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Interesting, regardless of his story a very nice example of an Australian 1st Pattern Wing.
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06-11-08, 11:45 PM
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Answer on Roger Cheng.
This what I just received from Mr. Larry Wong of the Chinese Canadian Military Museum located in Vancouver. Not the whole story but it shed some light on part of a little known part of Canadian military history.
Jo Roger Cheng of Lillooet and living in Vancouver,was a 26 years old. It is said he was the first Chinese-Canadian to be commissioned as a second lieutenant, in the Canadian Army RCCS.He was a graduate of McGill University Engineering School,and had a degree in Electrical Engineering. The second pat of the information sent follows. Now, Captain Roger Cheng back from special service with the RCCS in Borneo. He was there for five months of guerilla fighting with the island's headhunters. He was in the directorate of electrical communications and design at Ottawa for two years before taking commando and guerilla training for his special assignment in the Pacific. There were two Chinese-Canadians with him,CSM James Shiu and Sgt. Roy Chan. He landed in Borneo by parachute with a party of Australian and British officers. These informations are taken from two newspaper clippings. Jo
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07-11-08, 08:55 AM
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Brilliant................. :-)
Tom
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07-11-08, 03:33 PM
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Hello Will, thanks, did not think about this source of information.Do they have an email address?
Regards Jo
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07-11-08, 06:35 PM
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Signals War Diary Information - Capt Cheng
I have been able to dig up the following information so far:
=========================== War Diary 1 Cdn Special Wireless Group: ------------------------ 26 Nov 45 - Part II Orders - 1. Attachments. Att FAP ex R&Q wef 1 Nov 45 from Services Reconnaissance Department (British Military Establishment No. 100) having terminated duty with British Security Coordination on 31 Oct 45 (AUTH Defensor cable AG 5763 d/26 Jun 45 and Mil. Est. No.100, Routine Orders Part II No. 8 d/9 Nov 45) - Capt Roger K Cheng [Note there are 19 Other Ranks listed as well. Cheng is the only Officer] [Following entries are republished from Routine Orders Part II No.6 of Military Establishment No. 100 dated Australia 17 Oct 45] 8. Strength Increase. The m/n disembarked in Australia from overseas and are TOS M.E. 100. (22 Nov 44) 9. Additional Pay - Parachute. The m/n are entitled to Parachute Pay under Canadian Regs having qualified by completing sufficient descents to be deemed as operationally trained parachutists for the purposes of this Unit wef date of attachment for training. (6 Apr 45) 12. Embarkations and Disembarkations. The u/m personnel were employed on special operational duties in the Molucca Islands and Borneo during the periods stated : Capt Cheng, R. 13 Jul 45 to 24 Oct 45 ------------------------ 9 Jan 46 - Part II Orders - 6. Attachments. Ceases Att FAP ex R&Q from Services Reconnaissance Department (British Military Establishment No.100) on embarking at Brisbane, Aust, on board SS "English Prince" for return to Canada 8 Dec 45. (AUTH: Landforces HQs telegram QM 260 d/3 Jan 46) Capt Roger K. Cheng (Unattached List, NDHQ) =========================== There are further entries where he was attached to 1 CSWG, as appears in the 26 Nov Part IIs, for 26 Jul 45 however this entry in the orders was cancelled in the Part IIs of 1 Aug 45. The War Diary of NDHQ Signal Section has an entry for 11 Aug 42 indicating a Lieut Cheng was taken on strength of CSEE [Canadian Signals Experimentation Establishment] from A-7 Canadian Signal Training Centre. I have not seen anything to date on him transferring from RC Sigs to RCASC. I think that's probably just another LAC mislabel. Added: 7 Nov - Just checked with the Museum and they don't have anything further on him, at least not indexed and readily retrievable.
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www.rcsigs.ca Last edited by Joe C; 07-11-08 at 11:15 PM. Reason: Spelling; Museum check; content
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07-11-08, 09:35 PM
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From Jo to Joe........
  Now a new topic to research.....Services Reconnaissance Department (British Military Establishment No.100). Wasn't the British Security Coordination the Stephenson's(Intrepid) office in New York during the war? And what's FAP ex R&Q ???? Thanks a million Joe Jo
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