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Old 12-08-14, 05:22 PM
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I picked up an auction lot earlier which contained a mix of mostly modern British Army insignia (I now have enough miniatures of the ‘Afghanistan’ medal to deck myself out like a Third-world general if the fancy takes me). One of the badges is a QC Royal Tank Regiment beret badge which appears to have beeen manufactured with a black anodised finish (rather than painted by the owner), is this a particularly rare item? I had a trawl through past threads but it is entirely possible I missed any reference to it. Any thought or comments are, as always, greatly appreciated.

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Old 12-08-14, 06:32 PM
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Hi, not sure how rare they are, but there are two versions of it. So I suppose it depends on the production runs, Mike
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Old 12-08-14, 07:07 PM
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Thanks Mike, I suppose without a maker's mark there's little chance of attributing this one to a maker.

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Old 13-08-14, 03:35 AM
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Not so rare, I think.

Here's another one.

Chris will be up soon, to tell us they are not official badges.

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Old 13-08-14, 08:50 AM
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Not so rare, I think.

Here's another one.

Chris will be up soon, to tell us they are not official badges.

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William
Quite right William,

They most certainly ain't.

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Old 13-08-14, 11:46 AM
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I was thinking that some other units have blacked cap badges, but them remembered that the RTR are unique in wearing a true black beret, so, as my father says, "It'd be like a black cat int coal mine"

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Old 13-08-14, 11:57 AM
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I would think more reason to blacken their badges , many blacken badges were worn in Northern Ireland
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Old 13-08-14, 03:48 PM
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Hi, not sure how rare they are, but there are two versions of it. So I suppose it depends on the production runs, Mike
Mike,
I have a couple of these - what are the differences between the two types?

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Old 14-08-14, 03:45 PM
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Hi, here are the two types that I have, Mike
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Old 14-08-14, 04:30 PM
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Hi Mike

Mine is more like the smaller of the two except the reverse of the tank is depressed.

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Hi, here are the two types that I have, Mike
Mike,
thanks, mine appear to be ident with your second example on the right. In comparing the two types - i.e. the detail mainly on the tank and the crown - I would say that the left hand one is more likely from a FIRMIN die and the right hand example is a GAUNT badge. This I surmise from examining both against marked regular silver examples in my collection. Additionally you could scrutinise the lugs . . .

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Old 14-08-14, 07:59 PM
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Hi Bess, I'll have to check later, interesting. When you say silver, is that hallmarked silver? and if so what dates do you have? I've only got two or three that I like, of the top of my head I think they are 1960 and couple in the 1990's, best wishes Mike
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Hi Bess, I'll have to check later, interesting. When you say silver, is that hallmarked silver? and if so what dates do you have? I've only got two or three that I like, of the top of my head I think they are 1960 and couple in the 1990's, best wishes Mike
Mike, Just the usual silver a/a examples. I don't know the date the pattern was sealed but it must be late 50's - early 60's and still worn by the RTR today. I've got FIRMIN and GAUNT marked examples - and oddly a gold example marked JR GAUNT LONDON - clearly a colour error.

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Mike, Just the usual silver a/a examples. I don't know the date the pattern was sealed but it must be late 50's - early 60's and still worn by the RTR today. I've got FIRMIN and GAUNT marked examples - and oddly a gold example marked JR GAUNT LONDON - clearly a colour error.

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Sealed 1970 but I joined the RTR in September 1969 and was issued with a 2 lug silver AA badge with backing plate?
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Is there a Black RTR badge with a slider? Or did they only have lugs?

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