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Old 01-03-21, 11:14 AM
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A few more badges I recently found
The first is a brass with the old winking eye but is it the original die?
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first one = No
second one = yes (nice unvoided, 1920/30s)
third one = yes (LB&BCo made, post 1980)
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Old 01-03-21, 03:16 PM
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Thank you Griff!
Here’s a few for you to look at )
1 and 2 look very similar except for the L
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Do please let me know if you decide to move on one of your two the solid scroll mottos. I forgot to bid on one a few days ago on eBay, ho-hum.
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I would be interested in any extras too if you are selling them?

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Hello Chay

Yes I like all of them..... especially the motto with the chain safety loop in the top and the pin and clasp. For me.... it puts this type into the early 1900s. I have a DHIY (Officers cast gilt washed) with similar fittings.
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Hi Griff
I’m glad you like it ! I was wanting to share this so you can see! I am not a specialist collector like yourself in this field I just collect whatever comes my way )

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Hello Chay

Yes I like all of them..... especially the motto with the chain safety loop in the top and the pin and clasp. For me.... it puts this type into the early 1900s. I have a DHIY (Officers cast gilt washed) with similar fittings.
Hi Griff
Surely this is just an O/Rs conversion to a sweetheart brooch, it is clear where the slider has been removed.
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I am not an expert or even slightly knowledgeable about these badges and despite all the amazing pointers Griff and others have put on the forum to identify not only fakes, but also different makers and periods of wear, I still would rarely try to say yay or nay on authenticity of Mottos. I am however a little surprised that the first badge of the second set of photos is considered original. The massive die-flaw diagonally across the forehead would have put me off straight away.
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Surely this is just an O/Rs conversion to a sweetheart brooch, it is clear where the slider has been removed.
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Correct..... I was just showing a badge that had similar fittings.
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I am however a little surprised that the first badge of the second set of photos is considered original. The massive die-flaw diagonally across the forehead would have put me off straight away.
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https://www.paoyeomanry.org.uk/Motto/NoEars2.htm
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Thank you Griff
A very useful practical display of mottos
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... the full menu is here Chay (if you have not seen it already)

https://www.paoyeomanry.org.uk/Motto/MottoMainMenu.htm
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... the full menu is here Chay (if you have not seen it already)

https://www.paoyeomanry.org.uk/Motto/MottoMainMenu.htm
Thank you and no I have not seen it!
I will check through and match up the ones I have ! Very interesting indeed
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A long nose and a missing boned no ears 2
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