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Old 16-03-16, 06:17 PM
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Hi Bryan, I think it is old shellac lacquer that has browned with age impossible to say when it was applied.
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Thanks Ron, just curious if this was a common practice.

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Old 18-03-16, 07:42 AM
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SNCOs badge die-struck in a thin gauge material this necessitated a heavy guage backing plate to be fixed to the reverse. The lugs are brazed through the plate preventing its removal.

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Sgts bonnet badge, so well polished the ribs have been removed.
Plaque came with the badge. Three copper lugs to the reverse.

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Old 22-03-16, 10:16 AM
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Very fine silver plate and gilt SNCOs example by Andersons 1902-36.
Swallowtail scrolls extending beyond the back star.

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Old 22-03-16, 11:25 AM
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Ron, another great badge. I'm sure another stupid question, but what makes it a SNCO badge rather than an officer's? Is it the fact that it is plate rather than solid silver and are the numerals plate as well?
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Old 22-03-16, 11:29 AM
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Oops, forgot to ask. It would have been a relatively expensive badge to buy even in plate I would imagine. Do you know if SNCOs bought them private purchase? Would they be given a non-silver badge at public expense?

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Old 22-03-16, 02:29 PM
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Ron, another great badge. I'm sure another stupid question, but what makes it a SNCO badge rather than an officer's? Is it the fact that it is plate rather than solid silver and are the numerals plate as well?
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Bryan, in this particular case it is easy at this time officers did not wear 42 numerals but had St. Andrew at the badge centre.
However with the 2nd Bn it is more difficult especially in the Victorian era, I will be posting examples on that thread soon. The earlier the badge is and the better quality the more likely it is to be private purchase.
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Hi Ron,

Thanks again for sharing your 'world class' collection, truly outstanding and a credit to your ongoing diligence.

That last 42nd you posted with the long scrolls is really wonderful. A real joy to see these Ron - thank You.

Cheers, Roy.

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watching your posts with great envy

I have the following badge...apparently came via a bosleys auction but not by me

can you give some commentary

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Hi Wayne, could you post a pic of the reverse? Do you know which Bosleys sale it came from?
I can make a few observations, the 'N' from impune has a broken top indicating this overlay was struck/cast from an old die!
The pinched style crown and IT spelling would suggest a 42nd officers badge circa 1870, yet it has a St. Andrews center?
The left hand arm of the star has an unsightly blob of solder?
There is no patination on the badge?
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SNCOs 1937-52 pattern.
Solid backstar stamped silver with an Andersons name plate, lugs are also silver. Bright gilt overlay with silver numerals. Unusual to find a badge of this quality at this late date. It has been suggested to me that it was a recruiters badge?
For its over the mountains, and over the main,
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With a feather tae your bunnet and a kilt abune your knee,
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Hi Ron, your last post badge piqued my curiosity about a badge like that's use. I can see why it would be a recruiters badge. During actual service would a SNCO wear a badge like that in battle or generally was the hackle used? Would it have been a "home use" badge only? Also did the 1st Btn 42nd tradition carry on through this period and so this badge would still be associated with the 1st Btn?

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Hi Ron, your last post badge piqued my curiosity about a badge like that's use. I can see why it would be a recruiters badge. During actual service would a SNCO wear a badge like that in battle or generally was the hackle used? Would it have been a "home use" badge only? Also did the 1st Btn 42nd tradition carry on through this period and so this badge would still be associated with the 1st Btn?

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Bryan, the 42nd numeral badges were only worn by the 1st Bn.
The glengarry was not worn on active service during WW2 but that does not mean that some SNCOs did not retain them.
It is possible that the badge was used at the depot after the loss of the 1st Bn at St.Valery in 1940 it took two years to reform the Bn to be sent to Egypt in June 42.
This next badge which is an economy style version of the previous badge in white metal and a gm overlay was probably the last 42 badge to be issued in 1942.

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Many thanks Ron, as usual you know the answer. Your last sentence: are you saying that was the last issue date of a 42 badge to the regiment ever?

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