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Old 14-08-18, 11:12 PM
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Without casting any aspersions as to the originality of these white metal London badges that are blackened, all seem to have been copied in the past, call them restruck or whatever.

Laurie Archer said in his notes on fakes that badges struck in the wrong metals were the nightmare of collectors lives and I do wonder whether these badges were made in white metal to sell as a "variety" when they should have been made in gilding metal and then blackened, could it be collectors got wise to these, so the fakers blackened them, completely disguising the fact that they were fakes?

The 17th London (Stepney and Poplar Rifles) was made in white metal and gilding metal which was blackened, so I think this could be original.

Just my take on London badges and I have collected them for a few years . . !

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As you may know, a distinction of the TF (because of their Volunteer origins) was that they should have silver or W/M lace and badges in place of any that were gold or G/M in the Regular Army. However, because this might have singled out TF men as being anything less than as good as Regulars, the practice was not popular with many men/units of the TF.

Since this was seen also as likely to affect recruitment, the WO made provisions in TF regulations for any unit that wanted to, to adopt G/M badges in place of W/M, though permission had to be sought through its county TF Association. Apparently, many units (but not all) applied, and every one that did, was successful in their application.

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Old 15-08-18, 12:02 AM
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Could a 'possible' scenario be that some W/M badges from some Territorial battalions may have been officially blackened for the same reason? Regards, Paul.
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Old 15-08-18, 04:52 AM
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In South Africa during Victorian times, white metal and silver badges were sometimes blackened for officers(other ranks had blackened brass)with either the centre left in silver/white metal or the relief wiped down to show the silver. For what ever interest this may be. Regards Andrew
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Old 15-08-18, 07:43 AM
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Could a 'possible' scenario be that some W/M badges from some Territorial battalions may have been officially blackened for the same reason? Regards, Paul.
On the 5th November 1914, the 1st Bn., London Rifle Brigade, landed at Le Havre, France. Sometime during their one day and one night train journey from there to St. Omer, they had blacked over their white-metal cap badges.

It is difficult to believe that the LRB would have been the only unit to do this. It must have been common practice, though your guess as to the medium utilised for blacking is as good as mine.

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I have a couple of KRRC buttons which are blackened WM, I don't know if that helps.

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Hi Nozzer, any chance of posting a pic please? Don’t believe I’ve seen one before.
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