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Old 15-04-21, 03:17 PM
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Default Northumberland Fusiliers or ???

Hello,

Can anyone ID these two badges please.

Thinking NF, certainly for the circlet, which has been brooched and probably had loops either side.

They are not my collecting theme so will be available when identified.

thanks in advance
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Old 15-04-21, 03:19 PM
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The George and Dragon could well be for the Queen Victoria's Rifles or a forebears.
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Old 15-04-21, 04:29 PM
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Very nice badges. Whilst I do not know them, the right must have a NF connection and surely would be Victorian.

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Nice looking badges but sorry cannot help.

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Old 15-04-21, 10:48 PM
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Simon.
As Mike has stated, the The White metal example is probably associated with an antecedent unit of The 9th London, thought to be 1st or 6th Middlesex Rifle Volunteers.

I have 2 similar badges, one the same as yours, however lugged E/W and the other, a slightly different pattern, lugged N/S.

The central device/pattern on a 6th Middlesex RV other ranks helmet plate, 1881-1892, is in essence the same as your item, albeit with a few minor differences.

Your pattern is mentioned in Churchill, item 1483, he doesn't believe they were worn as collar badges, being a bit too large, but doesn't offer another option for being worn.

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Old 15-04-21, 10:56 PM
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hi Simon
the white metal badge could also be Australian, St.Georges English Riffles circa 1903-12 from memory.
if i had it and i have a few of them thats what i would be calling it.
i am sure it was used by other regiments in the UK.
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Old 15-04-21, 11:08 PM
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I think BC has hit the nail on the head!

https://harrowercollection.com.au/36...ent-1895-1912/

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Old 15-04-21, 11:11 PM
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I believe a WM badge exactly like that has been previously identified on here as St George English Rifles (New South Wales) centre. However, I’ve seen one such plate with the centre in situ and the floral pattern on the grass was different, so this attribution may be in doubt.

I have also seen these sold as 6th Middlesex (St. George’s) Rifle Volunteer Corps items. Also perhaps worth mentioning officers of the 1st Middlesex (Victoria’s) Rifle Volunteer Corps wore a similar design collar.

An identical GM badge was sold on the Quartermaster Store described as ‘Northumberland Fusiliers Officers Grenade Device converted into a Sweetheart Brooch’, item Code: 61210.

Edit: I hadn’t seen posts #5 - 7 when I started typing... that’ll teach me to post whilst watching Star Trek!
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Hi All,
Here is my St George and Dragon, which is like that in the link that CB posted.
It is slightly different to that shown in the first post.
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Old 16-04-21, 08:38 AM
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Thats all very interesting and thank you all for your research and time and effort. Probably leaning to a British badge having regard to the context of its acquisition which was with a bag of solely British Badges, many Welsh.

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Old 16-04-21, 08:59 AM
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I have the St.George & Dragon as a 6th Middlesex worn on the pork pie with a largish Victorian crown worn seperately above. I'm sure there a photo in one of Ray Westlake's Vols books.
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