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Old 06-04-21, 10:20 AM
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Default Advice sought. Collars or cap badges?

Gents, the two attached I've had for many years and am happy they are right - unless advised otherwise. What I am unsure of, is if they are cap badges or collars? Advice appreciated.

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Old 06-04-21, 11:00 AM
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In my opinion both are collar badges (The King's Own being an officers collar badge). There is no reason why either couldn't have been worn as cap badges although I don't think that was the original purpose for either.

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Old 06-04-21, 11:27 AM
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I agree.
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Old 06-04-21, 11:38 AM
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It's possible, but in this case I think unlikely, the King's Own was originally gilt which has been rubbed back to base metal, in which case it would/could be a cap badge.
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Old 06-04-21, 05:54 PM
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Thank you guys, appreciated as ever.

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In any case, it is usually agreed that Jennens marked any OR badges (if they did make OR badges at all)!
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Old 07-04-21, 07:34 AM
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From the photographs, I would say the King's Own is simply a bronze OSD collar with wear to it's obverse.


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It's possible, but in this case I think unlikely, the King's Own was originally gilt which has been rubbed back to base metal, in which case it would/could be a cap badge.
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From the photographs, I would say the King's Own is simply a bronze OSD collar with wear to it's obverse.
I agree with Frank. King's Own officer full dress cap badges were silver and I don't think they wore gilt badges, so more likely an OSD badge.
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Old 08-04-21, 08:14 AM
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I agree with Frank. King's Own officer full dress cap badges were silver and I don't think they wore gilt badges, so more likely an OSD badge.
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An easily overlooked point, was an item actually worn. So many badges around claimed to be something that weren’t.
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Old 08-04-21, 08:34 AM
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"Churchill" states that the lion over lettering collar badge was worn polished on officers khaki drill, and in gilt finish by Warrant Officers.
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Old 08-04-21, 11:23 AM
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Thanks all, great stuff. Fairly happy they arr both collars and shall be filed accordingly.

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Default Similar question.

Guys,
I've a similar question as to a badge I recently purchased. It's had (crude) copper loops fitted in place of the missing blades. The JR GAUNT LONDON is so small it is difficult to read even with a magnifying glass! But I don't think there are any dots between the letters.
Again, I suppose this is a cap badge as opposed to a collar badge? I'm only saying this because it seems a bit large for a collar, but obviously I could be totally wrong. It was described as Edwardian, but I've no idea how to check this. Any info would be helpful.
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Old 14-04-21, 05:12 PM
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Collars were generally lugged whilst the blades were for cap badges.
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Old 14-04-21, 05:26 PM
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An officer's badge perhaps described as "Edwardian" in order to represent the badge as an OR's lugged cap badge of that period rather than the later slidered version?
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Thanks for the prompt replies guys.
I think I'll describe it in my notes as an Officers cap badge then?
Thanks again.
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