Manchester Regiment

[Frank Kelley]

Gentlemen,
Just how scarce a badge is the Manchester Regt in Anodised form and what are the dates that it was actually in wear by the regiment?
Kind regards to you all,
Frank

[Alan O]

£40 scarce,

[Frank Kelley]

Not a cheap one then?
Having said that I know many command a far higher price, anybody any ideas on the dates it was actually being worn?

[Peter Brydon]

Strangely, according to K and K vol 2 , the anodised badge was sealed in 1964 but the regulars ceased wearing it on amalgamation with the Kings in 1958.

The Manchester Territorials wore it until around 1969.

P.B.

[Mike H]

Which maker is it Frank,the Grove MFG example with metal slider usually fetches a slightly higher price.Id say £50 but all depends on the who bids on it.

[Frank Kelley]

Hell Peter,
Very many thanks that is the thing that always gets me about sealed pattern dates, anyway it certainly makes sense and was the particular information that I wanted, any idea when they went from metal to anodised, was thinking 1953 perhaps?
Kind regards Frank

Originally Posted by Peter Brydon

Strangely, according to K and K vol 2 , the anodised badge was sealed in 1964 but the regulars ceased wearing it on amalgamation with the Kings in 1958.

The Manchester Territorials wore it until around 1969.

P.B.

[Frank Kelley]

Hello Mike,
I don't actually have one yet!
But, I do like the Manchester's, mainly because of the 1st Battalions defence of Ladysmith on the 6th of January 1900!
Regards Frank

Originally Posted by Mike H

Which maker is it Frank,the Grove MFG example with metal slider usually fetches a slightly higher price.Id say £50 but all depends on the who bids on it.

[Alan O]

Originally Posted by Frank Kelley

Hell Peter,
Very many thanks that is the thing that always gets me about sealed pattern dates, anyway it certainly makes sense and was the particular information that I wanted, any idea when they went from metal to anodised, was thinking 1953 perhaps?
Kind regards Frank

A decade later. It is not that uncommon for a/a infantry badges to have mid-60s dates and were worn by TA and Cadets only.

[Frank Kelley]

Hello Alan,
Are you saying that the 1st battalion never actually wore the anodised badge?
Regards Frank

Originally Posted by Alan O

A decade later. It is not that uncommon for a/a infantry badges to have mid-60s dates and were worn by TA and Cadets only.

[Peter Brydon]

Alan ,
It may of course be incorrect but this article from the "White Horse and Fleur de Lys " magazine of Autumn 1974 suggests 1957 for the issue of the anodised badge.

P.B.

[Frank Kelley]

Hello Peter,
That is very helpful, so they would seem to have worn the white metal badge for quite some time and I assume in Malaya too.
Kind regards again Frank

Originally Posted by Peter Brydon

Alan ,
It may of course be incorrect but this article from the "White Horse and Fleur de Lys " magazine of Autumn 1974 suggests 1957 for the issue of the anodised badge.

P.B.

[Alan O]

Originally Posted by Peter Brydon

Alan ,
It may of course be incorrect but this article from the "White Horse and Fleur de Lys " magazine of Autumn 1974 suggests 1957 for the issue of the anodised badge.

P.B.

Peter,

If the 1957 date was right why chrome the TA's badges in badges in 1958? Why give the Regulars a/a badges and them deny them to the TA? Easier to give the TA a/a rather than chrome their metal badges?

Alan

[Frank Kelley]

Gentlemen,
Interestingly, volume 2 of K and K also mentions the badges of the 8th and 9th Battalions being chrome plated in 1959, this cannot be just a myth?

[Alan O]

Without knowing where Kipling got his info from it is impossible to verify the story. They may have read the same article. It's quite possible for a TA Bn to have chromed badges for the parade - but why bother if there are several hundred a/a badges on the shelves?

[Peter Brydon]

I understand as another example (and from their Curator who was a member of the regiment ) that the Liverpool Scottish were sent anodised badges but refused to change from the metal ones being worn, the anodised ones being given to the Cadets.

Peter