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Old 11-12-15, 11:36 AM
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Hi all,

A badge I had not come across before which I believe to be a Duke of Wellington's Volunteers WM side cap badge. It measures 29x27mm and has nice toned lugs north-south.

The 4th, 5th and 9th West Riding of Yorkshire Volunteers were raised in 1859 and in 1881 became the 1st, 2nd and 3rd Volunteer Battalions of The Duke of Wellington's Regiment.

In 1908 the 1st Battalion of the Volunteers became the 4th Battalion The Duke of Wellington's Regiment, at Halifax. The 2nd became the 5th and 7th Battalions DWR based in Huddersfield and the 3rd Battalion became 6th DWR based in the Craven Valley.

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Old 11-12-15, 12:47 PM
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It could be DWR (West Riding) but not sure. Ist VB glengarry was DOW crest within circlet, below QVC. Cap badge was same as regular CB but in WM with VB title on ribbon. I think at least one or maybe both of the other 2 VB's wore similar. All three VB's wore the same collar badge - same as regular (elephant & howdah) but in WM. In other words, the DWR VB badges were much the same as the regular badges, other than being in white metal and with different titles.

These DOW crests cause a lot of confusion. I'm inclined to think it might be New Zealand, one of the pre 1911 Wellington Rifle Volunteer units?

David

PS...... if it was DWR (West Riding) it could possibly be the centre of a VB helmet plate ?

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Old 11-12-15, 02:58 PM
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The DWR was one of 10 regts who had unique FSC badges in the late 1890s.

Their badge is remarkably similar to a NZ one so I can't tell you what this is for certain.
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The DWR was one of 10 regts who had unique FSC badges in the late 1890s.

Their badge is remarkably similar to a NZ one so I can't tell you what this is for certain.
Hi Alan

Do you know if they got around to issuing them to the DWR Volunteer Bn's? I always thought they went from the glengarry badge to the DOW crest/ribbon cap badge, for no other reason than I haven't found any photographic evidence to suggest otherwise. Obviously, if the VB's did wear them it would only have been for a short time.

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Old 11-12-15, 08:06 PM
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Hi Alan

Do you know if they got around to issuing them to the DWR Volunteer Bn's? I always thought they went from the glengarry badge to the DOW crest/ribbon cap badge, for no other reason than I haven't found any photographic evidence to suggest otherwise. Obviously, if the VB's did wear them it would only have been for a short time.

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No idea. I have only seen references to the regular bn.
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Old 12-12-15, 09:23 AM
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Many thanks David, Alan, Leigh and Peter for your additional information and thoughts on this badge.

I had discounted the Wellington Rifles collars as have had them and not the same striking as I recall.

Here is another which I think will be of interest to DoW collectors. WM and broached with motto scroll. This looks to me like the centre piece of the DoW Regiment (West Riding) Officers glengarry 1881-95 from a pic of one in the National Army Museum or the Officers HPC 1881-1914 as per K&K 246. In either case as an Officers I would have thought it may have been marked silver. Is it an OR's ?

Great hobby is it not, cheers Dean.
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Some comments from the late David Linaker`s article " Field ( Service ) Cap Badges " in Crown Imperial 113 of 2004 attached.

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Some comments from the late David Linaker`s article " Field ( Service ) Cap Badges " in Crown Imperial 113 of 2004 attached.

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Hi Peter

Thanks for that. Question is, did they also appear in WM?

David

PS..... I have at least 2 of the G/M badges at home but can never decide if they are DWR c 1895-97 FSC badges or NZ collars. The points in the article might help with that.....

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A similar little badge but a different striking, 31mm x 26mm, N/S lugs, attached to a belt.
The belt was given to me in the 80's by a friend who said it was his great uncles, who had served during WWI, believed with the DoW.
It came with two DoW cap badges which were'nt attached to the belt.
I've always taken it to be a collar dog.
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