Grenadiers Guards pair

[cbuehler]

I THINK (dangerous....) that both of these are genuine. They are from exactly the same die (ignore the apparent differences due to angle of photo) with no noticeable wear. But if genuine, how is it that they would be made lugged/slidered at the same time?

CB

[wardog]

I don't think a change in fitting by a manufacturer would give cause for for a change in pattern. I'm unsure how slidered Guards badges fit with their history, but with line regiments if a slidered badge matches one with lugs it could mean they were both made pre Great War by the same manufacturer, though with badges that stayed the same for 50 years or so-a manufacturer might keep the same pattern with out noticeable change. Regards, Paul.

[leigh kitchen]

At one time the badge was also worn by RA wasn't it, some people holding that the slidered version is RA pagri badge?
Apart from the Welsh for whom both slidered and lugged abound,,
some other Guards regiments badges are found with sliders - a feature of some WWI badges?

[leigh kitchen]

Slidered grenades, all from different dies other than the 5th and 6th which are from the same die.

[grenadierguardsman]

I have about 8 different versions of the slivered Grenade, apart from the crimped version they are hard to date in my opinion. However they were used up to or at least the mid 50's. I have some letters from the Regiment to I think Guant ( somewhere ), mentioning how the grenade, moves whilst being worn. Which I actually agree, lugged badges don't move.
Andy