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Old 06-03-15, 03:52 AM
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Hi everyone,
I need help with the attached photo. This group family portrait was photographed by Dimond Studio Rundle Street Adelaide sometime in WW1.
back of photo has name "Mcleod" I have searched AWM embarkation rolls and isolated 6 possible men, married with South Australian addresses. They embarked for overseas at various times during WW1. To further break them down I need to know -Is the uniform (hat/cap) standard for the duration of the war? Does the lanyard on the left shoulder denote a particular branch or unit?
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I'm not up on Australian badges at all but the collar dogs look to be a very distinctive shape.
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G'day Jim

The uniform is the first type of jacket, it has a cloth waiste belt and buckle and has flat 4 hole buttons. The belt lost its tongue and buckle later and the buttons became the familliar domed blackened brass button with the map of Australia. The jacket has collar dogs, some dont. The trousers are of a "nicker bocker" type and finnish just below the knee, thats why they baloon around the knee. The men wore long johns and long sox with the puttees wound up from the boots to over the lower end of the trousers. Light horse jodpurs were longer going down to the calf but still not to the ankle, they wore heavy leather leggings from the boots up to just below the knees.

It was common to be issued with a cap rather than a slouch hat when you enlisted. The hats seem to have been issued later and some men wore the cap in Galopolli others wore the slouch hat but the tin hat wasnt issued till 1916 when they were in the western front.

There are a lot of photos like this taken before the men embarked with them wearing peaked caps. Sorry I cant see a lanyard but that wouldnt tell us much, I suspect hes infantry, the only thing we can say is that hes not light hores,

I hope that this helps.

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Hi Phil,
Thanks for this useful information.
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I'm not up on Australian badges at all but the collar dogs look to be a very distinctive shape.
The collar dogs are standard Australian rising sun badges worn by all Australian troops (same size as the cap badge but smaller than the slouch hat badge).
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Why dont you give me a ring on 0401 010 626 and drop up to the Upwey RSL Running Rabbits Military Museum, we are open on Sundays from 10 to 2 pm. Have a good talk, some lunch and a cold beer.

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Why dont you give me a ring on 0401 010 626 and drop up to the Upwey RSL Running Rabbits Military Museum, we are open on Sundays from 10 to 2 pm. Have a good talk, some lunch and a cold beer.

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Hi Phil,
Sounds like a plan! Next Sunday. I look forward to meeting up with you.
Jim
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hi jim
you say you have narrowed it down to 6 possible men, married with South Australian addresses, but i come up with this list
378 McLEOD, Alexander
2819 McLEOD, John George
645 McLEOD, Norman
6796 McLEOD, Norman Love

i think he is infantry and i think its an early war pic so i have narrowed it down to the bottom 2. both early infantry.

the only thing is both these chaps were 29yrs on enlistment but your chap looks older?

national archives service record for 645 mcleod says he wasnt married but then an entry made later to say he is.
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this chap has a child but enlisted 1916?
Norman Love McLEOD

Regimental number 6796
Religion Presbyterian
Occupation Sign contractor
Address Parkside, South Australia
Marital status Married
Age at embarkation 29
Next of kin Wife, Mrs A M McLeod C/o A J Whitrow, Matilda Street, Eastwood, South Australia
Enlistment date 4 September 1916
Rank on enlistment Private
Unit name 10th Battalion, 22nd Reinforcement
AWM Embarkation Roll number 23/27/4
Embarkation details Unit embarked from Adelaide, South Australia, on board HMAT A19 Afric on 7 November 1916
Rank from Nominal Roll Private
Unit from Nominal Roll 10th Battalion
Fate Died of disease 14 June 1917
Place of burial Brookwood Military Cemetery (Plot XI, Row D, Grave No. 18), Surrey, England, England
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Hi Phil,
Sounds like a plan! Next Sunday. I look forward to meeting up with you.
Jim
Yesterday I had the privilege of visiting the Running Rabbits Military Museum as a guest of Lancer17 A.K.A Phil. This museum is attached to the Upwey-Belgrave RSL in Upwey Victoria. If you get the chance it is a "must see" experience. The museum is home to a large array of weapons, uniforms, memorabilia such as trench art to some heavy gear including an Ikara missile, Leopard tank and a 105mm cannon. The museum is dedicated to those Aussie heroes who fought the Japs along the Kokoda track. The meal in the bistro was an excellent bonus to a fascinating visit. After all this it was off to view Phil's awesome badge collection. What a day! Thanks Phil.
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