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Old 03-12-19, 08:20 AM
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The Volunteer period ranks are a trap for many.
The photo in question shows the sitter with 2 rank stars on his shoulder boards. 2 stars in the volunteer period was a captain. This corresponded with two wide stripes on the cuff etc.
So the question is why has he got captains rank on the shoulders but Lieutenants rank on the cuff?
Most plausible answer - he has just been promoted and as yet does not have his new uniform. Which, if it is Duthie, would put the photo in the 1896 period.
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The following photo is un-named and is captioned "Wellington Volunteers, circa 1890s."

There is a close resemblance to Corporal Halpin and the gentleman in the WCR uniform.

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Old 03-12-19, 08:29 AM
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The Volunteer period ranks are a trap for many.
The photo in question shows the sitter with 2 rank stars on his shoulder boards. 2 stars in the volunteer period was a captain. This corresponded with two wide stripes on the cuff etc.
So the question is why has he got captains rank on the shoulders but Lieutenants rank on the cuff?
Most plausible answer - he has just been promoted and as yet does not have his new uniform. Which, if it is Duthie, would put the photo in the 1896 period.
Barry
The cuff rank is most important to narrow down the time frame that the photo was taken and the person it could be, as does the shoulder boards.
I too would speculate the picture was taken in 1896.
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Lieutenant-Colonel W. G. Duthie was appointed Commanding Officer of the Wellington City Rifles in 1907, replacing Colonel Collins when he was appointed to the Defence Council.

This is probably one of the last photos taken of the Wellington City Rifles before it became the 5th (Wellington) Regiment.

Winners CAC Cups and 4th Team Championship N.Z. Meeting, March 1911.jpg

Winners CAC Cups and 4th Team Championship N.Z. Meeting, March, 1911.jpg

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As a bit of a Wellington City Rifles/5th Regiment nut, this is one of my favorite officers.
The photo is dated 1911.
Anyone guess who it is?

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The Onward series of books is a good reference to at badges were worn in the territorial period, and WW1.


Here is a pre WW1 , territorial Wellington officer wearing scrolled cap and collars. What is on the scroll of the cap badge is the question. He was killed in 1916.


If it is ''New Zealand'' on scroll, then this is contrary to previous information , that badge wasn't worn till 1922/1923 .
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As a bit of a Wellington City Rifles/5th Regiment nut, this is one of my favorite officers.
The photo is dated 1911.
Anyone guess who it is?

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Hi Brent,
Is it Sir James Allen, Minister of Defence?
Cheers, John
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