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Old 21-03-12, 03:26 PM
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This is 38mm across, marked on reverse Sterling Silver, WO Lewis, Howard St, Birmm. When would it have been worn? Does it have any value?
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Old 21-03-12, 04:04 PM
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This is 38mm across, marked on reverse Sterling Silver, WO Lewis, Howard St, Birmm. When would it have been worn? Does it have any value?
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Mike
Hello Mike,

Cannot place a value on this particular example, but the standard g/m versions go from anywhere between £30 to £60 (ish) depending on whether you acquire one from a dealer or somewhere like eBay.

Hope this helps.

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Old 21-03-12, 07:41 PM
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A City of London member wearing the cap badge mentioned by Peter.
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Old 21-03-12, 08:18 PM
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A City of London member wearing the cap badge mentioned by Peter.
Graham,

Thanks for posting that. A cracking little photo.

Apologies for not making previous point very well, but the badge I was referring to is the brass version of the one Mike has posted (his being a silver example):

CoL VC.jpgCoL VC 2.jpg

Without wishing to hi-jack Mike's thread, perhaps you could clarify exactly which unit this lapel badge shown above is to. I have always been under the impression that it was to the City of London Volunteer Corps...

CoL VC 3.jpg

...as opposed to the City of London National Guard Volunteers (affectionately referred to as 'The Methuseliers')...

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Old 22-03-12, 05:49 AM
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Graham,

Thanks for posting that. A cracking little photo.

Apologies for not making previous point very well, but the badge I was referring to is the brass version of the one Mike has posted (his being a silver example):

Attachment 60600Attachment 60601

Without wishing to hi-jack Mike's thread, perhaps you could clarify exactly which unit this lapel badge shown above is to. I have always been under the impression that it was to the City of London Volunteer Corps...

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...as opposed to the City of London National Guard Volunteers (affectionately referred to as 'The Methuseliers')...

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Peter
Must admit I haven't enough information on London and it's Corps, but wouldn't be at all surprised if they're one and the same, with the City of London Volunteer Corps, eventually becoming part of the City of London National Guard, as portrayed in the photo. I believe they also produced a "History of the C.L.N.G.", but I haven't got a copy.
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Gentlemen,
Is the City of London volunteer corps capbadge as shown by Peter above, the 2nd picture of the bronzed badge, scarce and valuable?
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Old 27-11-15, 10:27 PM
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05.08.14. Scheme proposed for a City of London Corps
10.08.14. Central Association of VTC established in London.
20.08.14. First meeting of CoL Vol Corps
19.11.14. Volunteer movement recognised.
12.12.14. Mention of 1-6 Plt existing.
00.12.15. Corps locations:
HQ- 3 Fleet St
A Coy: 1-4 Plt
B Coy: 5-8 Plt
C Coy: 9-12 Plt
D Coy: 13-16 Plt
E Coy included a Kentish Town Plt. Remainder of Platoons of this Coy
recruited around St. Pancras
Cyclist Sec, Medical Sec, and Signalling Sec existed.

This VTC organisation should not be confused with the City of London Civic Guard. The CG were raised by the Lord Mayor in 1940 from men and women who were willing to come to the City of London in event of an invasion threat and remain there. They were raise under the Town Clerk (who was Controller ARP and Invasion Defence Officer)
09.10.40. Mention of Civic Guard having a purpose in assisting organisation after Corporation work was no longer possible (i.e. post-invasion).
The Cg was organised into A, B, C & D Divisions.
All members were issued a lapel badge: these cost the Corporation of London £150.

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Old 30-11-15, 09:02 AM
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Jon,

These badges, like many VTC badges, are pretty scare - although original ones do occasionally come up for sale. I've seen maybe 2 or 3 in the last several years. They are probably worth £40-£60, but can be had for less due to the proliferation of copies, which are generally available on eBay. Copies start at about a fiver, but can be a lot higher; beware!

I'm afraid to say that the badge Peter has pictured is a copy. It looks the part, generally well patinated, but as some of these copies have been around almost 50 years that's not very surprising.

The "original" badges have a couple of distinguishing points, the most obvious of which are the spines(?) on the dragons back. I attach a couple of picture to show this.

Best regards,

Tim
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Old 01-12-15, 10:34 AM
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Thanks Tim
I'll see what the one is like in the lot I won at auction.
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The one I received was the same s Peters so a copy.
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The one I received was the same s Peters so a copy.
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Hello Jon,

Here is a genuine example for comparison:

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Old 16-01-16, 09:01 PM
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Oops! I see Tim has already kindly provided a genuine example in post #8. Sorry about that
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Old 16-01-16, 09:29 PM
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Here are the cap badge and cloth S/T being worn:

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Old 16-01-16, 10:15 PM
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Not at all. I see what is meant by the spikes on the rear
Thanks for the pictures.
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Collar badge to the CLVC:

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