Military Police GRVI letter type

[P.Jones]

Steve,
Thanks for posting the photo’s and such good quality. It’s the first time I have seen the ERvii badge in such detail brilliant. If you ever have time at a later date to take photos of the rear of the badges I would love to see them.

Many thanks,

Philip

[Alan O]

Not quite RMP but Military Provost Staff Corps so I could not resist showing them.

The GVI is obviously post 1937. The one with the wreath is 1906-18. I recently got thsi one and it has a slight bit of damage to the wreath. The second one without the wreath is dated by an article in a french miliatry magazine provided by jean-Pitt to 1910-37. This one is not shown in K&K and is often confused as Norfolk Yeo. Matters are not helped by the amount of repros about of this one.

Alan

[P.Jones]

Alan

Great to see some Military Provost Staff Corps Badges on the forum. As apart from Military Police these are the only other badges I am trying to collect.

Not wishing to split hairs but shouldn’t the GV with wreath be 1910-18 not 1906-18 or am I missing something? My old school master in Wales was always telling me I was!!

Was the GV without wreath from the so called "hate belt" you posted a while back?


Is the photo of the GVI the large version? And am I right in assuming there was another smaller WW2 beret GVI badge? Thus two different types for GVI ?


Maybe it would be a good idea to start a new thread with these photos?

Philip

[Alan O]

Phillip.

Could well be 1910 rather than 1906. My French is poor and the article was from a French magazine.

I wreathless one I bought several years ago but looks identical to the one on the hate belt shown elsewhere in the forum.

The GVI badge is a small one as shown in K&K. There are much larger versions of this badge but I believe these to be Norfolk Yeomanry (NY). Wilkinson's book was full of confusion here and later amendments were required. His book even included another GVI cypher badge as a Norfolk Yeo beret, the likes of which I have never seen before and I have always wondered if it was a cut down Corps badge.

I will get my camera out and show the MPSC badges compared the NY.

Alan

[P.Jones]

Alan,

When you have time I would be very interested in seeing the comparison between the MPSC and the NY.

Philip

[P.Jones]

Alan,

Whilst we are on the subject of Military Police badges if this is the Military Foot Police badge all though be it a re-strike? see attachment. Do you know what the Military mounted Police badge look like?

Philip

[Alan O]

Phillip that is the MFP design - I think there is already a thread about the fakes. I do not think that there was a mounted equivelent so I presume mounted personnel wore the standard badge.

Alan

[Alan O]

These are the NY badges compared to the row of MPSC badges. The last one on each row are the EIIR beret badges. I also have both in a/a.

Alan

[P.Jones]

Alan,

Thanks for the last two posts, the MPSC and NY do indeed look very similar its only when you see them side by side.
I have the tenth edition of Wilkinson and he shows a MPSC GV with wreath and the date 1936-53? Any ideas?

Philip

[P.Jones]

Alan,
Attachment of the Wilkinson MPSC GV with wreath badge 1936-53

Philip

[Alan O]

Wilkinson's descriptions are full of errors - he must have mislabelled the badge and meant the wreathless GVI one as the one shown is the WW1 version and Gv died in 1936.

Alan