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3rd Dragoon Guards Arm badge
Hi Gents
Can someone confirm that these are 3rd dragoon Guards arm badges? one is silver the other white metal. I know that there was a thread dealing with the different scrolls.......but can't seem to find it. Many thanks Jim |
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Hi Jim,
According to Linaker & Dine, page 49, plate 8.11 - 3DG, the white metal version could be right if the dimensions are 38.1mm high x 35.2mm wide and the lugs are E/W and about 12mm apart. Hope this helps ?? Dave. PS, It will certainly be a useful tool for bribery in the future if it is ............ DC Last edited by davec2; 17-11-10 at 02:27 PM. Reason: PS |
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PS again Jim,
I forgot to mention the fact that it would be a trumpeters arm badge if the dimensions match !! Dave. |
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Good afternoon Jim,
Could you supply their measurements please?. However, If they measure c37mm - 38mm they could equaly be L/cpls arm badges used by both the 10th Royal Hussars (POW) and The Royal Hussars. All good wishes, Peter |
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Hi Peter,
It could be the Royal Hussars if it's about 36.0mm both ways but the lugs would be about 17mm apart, as for the 10th, I believe they should have three lugs ?? You're right, dimensions needed. Dave. |
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Very likely to be 3 DG then, I'm sure someone like Gordon will have a clearer idea than I..... Dave. |
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3rd Dragoon Guards
Hi Peter/ Dave thanks for the replies....I must say I thought that the Hussars sleeve badges had a flatter scroll as per the collar (I think!) 30 x 36 lugs 12mm
But then the 3rd dragoons collar is the same in Westlake...confused.. Must get a decent book on arm badges. Jim |
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Hi Jim,
I'm not too sure really, I'm way outside my comfort zone here but I'm sure arm badges do not compare with cap/collar badges, for a start, I don't think they would be bi-metal ?....... I'm showing the photo I referred to in my first post re Linaker and Dine ( a book well worth owning ), there is still a subtle difference between the badge in the photo and your example, ie, the gap between the feathers, I think this can be accounted for by a manufacturers' pattern, or it's a totally different badge..... The other point of course, is the astounding number of different variations of feather and scroll positioning, it is staggering, I would love to place every variation along side each other, just to see how many there are !! I suggest that you leave this question open until the proper experts read your posts ( absolutely no reflection on yourself Peter ) but if I try to give a definitive answer, you can bet your bottom dollar that someone will prove me wrong. Dave. |
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Hi,
The 2 badges in the opening post - I would suggest the Wiltshire Yeomanry for the badge on the left, it is in both Cox's and an article on yeomanry arm badges in the MHS bulletin as such. The second badge looks like the 10th Hussars in Seaman's book and though listed as 3DG in Lineker & Dine, they conceed in the appendices that it could've also been worn by Cpls of the 10H. Noodles. Last edited by Noodles; 17-11-10 at 04:37 PM. |
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Hi Noodles,
I concede to your superior knowledge on this matter but I'm confused now, Jim asked if the white metal badge was to the 3DG's, I suggested that it may well be because of the dimensions and the fact that it has only got two lugs/loops. I missed the fact that it might also have been worn by the 10H's but the design for the same badge worn by the 10H has three lugs/loops, so surely his badge is 3DG ?? that could have been worn by the 10H. ?? Am I being too pedantic ? I don't mean to be but I wonder why the 3DG is being dismissed outright, or, is it me ?? Dave. Last edited by davec2; 18-11-10 at 07:27 PM. |
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Hi Dave,
The first badge below is exactly the same measurements as the 3DG badge in L&D (38mmx35), but it has 3 lugs instead of 2 - it could be argued that it is 10 hussars, then, but their badge is supposed to be smaller - a different maker, perhaps ? The second badge is 3DG's 'flat scroll' badge, which was, as far as anyone knows only worn by 3DG and as in L&D it should have 2 lugs then, but mine has 3. The third badge is not in L&D nor in Peter Seamans' book, but as you can see it is original and definately an arm badge, but which regiment wore it remains a mystery to me. So what i was trying to say in my original post is that the badge in question could be either 3DG or 10H and more probably both. Noodles. |
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Cheers Noodles,
I got an interest in these when I saw Gordon's wonderful collection, he raised his eyebrows when I expressed my new found interest, so far, as you know, I've only acquired a few of the easier to obtain badges but it will get costlier and harder I know but the biggest fear is the complicated nature of the different versions, I will have to get used to being confused and just keep asking questions......... Again thanks. Dave. PS At least it could be said that I was partly right ??? DC. PPS Nice badges by the way................................green faced icon required !! DC. |
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Books on Cavalry Arm badges
Must get a decent book on arm badges.
Jim[/QUOTE] Hi Jim There is a copy of Linaker and Dine on ebay now, ends at 19.52hrs If this is insufficient warning please PM me and I can give you more details on this book and the one written by Peter Seaman In haste Gordon |
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Hi Jim
There is a copy of Linaker and Dine on ebay now, ends at 19.52hrs If this is insufficient warning please PM me and I can give you more details on this book and the one written by Peter Seaman In haste Gordon[/QUOTE] Thanks for the "head's up" Gordon. Jim |
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