Warrant Officer? - Page 2 - British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

Mike_2817 · #16 24-09-12, 05:30 PM

Sorry I meant No6 Dress!

grey_green_acorn · #17 24-09-12, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike_2817

If you do not mind I will send the picture to a director at the RCOC museum for ID whom I know well

Please make any enquiries you can that may solve this "mystery".

Tim

Mike_2817 · #18 24-09-12, 09:45 PM

Will get on to it tomorrow

cpgriff · #19 25-09-12, 10:45 AM

I think that you may find that these are for a Corps RSM as the wreath isn't in blue, possibly the new FAD version? Not sure on the exact date but these started to appear around 2009.

Mike_2817 · #20 25-09-12, 10:59 AM

Re Corps RSM's - On what uniform? certainly not for FAD, and all modern combat uniforms use the Central front rank slide

The Royal Arms in Wreath worn by ASM Sandhust & Corps RSM's differ in design and are normally contoured to shape like the WO1's badge.

The new FAD versions of all badges are the same as the Kharki versions but in a differant shade of backing to match FAD uniform

cpgriff · #21 25-09-12, 04:58 PM

They were being worn with No2s/SD and CS95 when I left so I presume that there is a version for wear with the new pullover and No2s, albeit there aren't many CRSMs!

54Bty · #22 25-09-12, 05:31 PM

Currently the ADC can not agree to approve the various cloth badges produced for their consideration. Therefore the Corps Senior WO1's obtain their own badge of rank or is it appointment. When it was approved in 2005 it was stipulated that there would be no Corps distinction.

Two examples Corps of Royal Engineers and a generic version, both have been worn at some stage.

Marc

grey_green_acorn · #23 25-09-12, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cpgriff

I think that you may find that these are for a Corps RSM as the wreath isn't in blue, possibly the new FAD version? Not sure on the exact date but these started to appear around 2009.

The two badges in post#1 measure just 60mm in diameter and are on a dark 'olive' green backing with a light green/khaki merrowed edge. If anything they are intended for working or combat dress. They would just fit on a rank slide!

Tim

Mike_2817 · #24 25-09-12, 09:10 PM

Currant Conductors Badge of the RAAOC

soldier1 · #25 25-09-12, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill A

Both the RCE and the RCOC had the appointment of Conductor. The Canadian Coat of Arms was authorized for use in 1948 as the badge for Warrant Officer 1st Class. There are Conductor badges made with the Canadian Coat of Arms, and iirc, there were both king's crown and queen's crown patterns. The appointment disappeared with integration. Perhaps this is an appointment worth reinstituting?

Hi Bill; I've never heard of the RCE having the appt of Conductor. Only RCOC and allied Ordnance corps have had that appointment.
Cheers Al

soldier1 · #26 25-09-12, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill A

Both the RCE and the RCOC had the appointment of Conductor. The Canadian Coat of Arms was authorized for use in 1948 as the badge for Warrant Officer 1st Class. There are Conductor badges made with the Canadian Coat of Arms, and iirc, there were both king's crown and queen's crown patterns. The appointment disappeared with integration. Perhaps this is an appointment worth reinstituting?

Hi Bill; an afterthought here to address your last question. Unlike the RLC, which is army and have kept the Conductor appointment and indeed have appointed cooks/drivers etc Conductor; the CF LOG Br is, as you know, tri- service.

The RCN and the RCAF elements of the Branch will never vote to reinstitute the appointment of Conductor in the LOG Br because they view this as an 'army appointment'.

Attempts have been made, both when I was serving and after I retired to reinstate subj. It fell flat on it's face. I don't believe it will ever happen. Sad.

Some would argue that the appointment of CCWO's fill this void but the appointment of Conductor rests with appointee for the rest of his/her career; unlike the CCWO appointent which lasts for only that posting.

Cheers Al

Nichollg · #27 22-07-13, 10:20 AM

This appear to be NZ Army. The backing material looks consistant with the NZ Army Service Dress uniform.
The rank of conductor was made obsolete in the NZ Army in the mid 90s I believe.

grey_green_acorn · #28 22-07-13, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Nichollg

This appear to be NZ Army. The backing material looks consistant with the NZ Army Service Dress uniform.
The rank of conductor was made obsolete in the NZ Army in the mid 90s I believe.

Thanks for that. Any chance of an image of it being worn? 54bty now has the other example.

Tim