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Old 25-04-13, 03:28 PM
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Default Two old photo's.

Picked these up today. The sailor's cap tally is for HMS Impregnable which I remember as being a training establishment. Not sure what era this is but I'd guess early 1900's going by the civvie clothing. The soldier I have no idea about other than the POW feathers on his badge. I love his schoolboy 'S' hook belt and the choice of background! It's nice to see the outside crapper in your Wedding pics. Anyone fill in the blanks?




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Old 25-04-13, 03:44 PM
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Statisically he would be Welsh regt as they had far more Bns than the cavalry regst wearing a similiar badge.
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Old 25-04-13, 03:51 PM
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My take on this, is that the parties in both photos appear to be wearing Edwardian clothing popular at the time (style of Women's hats, dresses, mens collars and the way the kids have been dressed). Two very sombre weddings indeed! Why is it no-one smiled in those days? I thought weddings were meant to be happy occasions! The soldier is a private from The Welsh Regt standing next next to the family Outhouse
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The second photo was taken during The Great War. Soldier is wearing economy Tunic and 1914 pattern belt.
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My take on this, is that the parties in both photos appear to be wearing Edwardian clothing popular at the time (style of Women's hats, dresses, mens collars and the way the kids have been dressed). Two very sombre weddings indeed! Why is it no-one smiled in those days? I thought weddings were meant to be happy occasions! The soldier is a private from The Welsh Regt standing next next to the family Outhouse
I thought that people didn't smile because of the long exposure time.

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The rate badge for the seaman is Stoker but with star above & star below he was qualified as a Mechanician - the time for this rate was 1906-14 so I would say a pre war photo. I am guessing his medal is a QSA, possibly one clasp.

& if that's his bride on his right she looks downright ANGRY!!

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I thought that people didn't smile because of the long exposure time.

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The outhouse may have had an effect not only one their lack of smiles but also on how long they stood there!

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The outhouse may have had an effect not only one their lack of smiles but also on how long they stood there!

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The photo' of the soldier was taken by a photographer from Cadoxton, Barry, South Wales so he probably was in the Welch. The bride is Alice and the groom Will and it's dated 12 Aug 1915 so good call ARVP.
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For what it's worth the guy in the RN uniform top image, looks as though he should be pulling his pension instead of being in service.

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The "Welsh' group are standing infront of an external cast iron riveted water storage tank, seldom seen today.

I was on holiday recently and stayed in an old Edwardian house in the Karoo region of South Africa and there was one of these next to the house. It still had a makers name plate, from Sheffield if I can recall correctly.

Wow, they were a real sour lot in those days, would hate to have attended a funeral if this was the feeling at a wedding!

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The Soldiers cap badge looks similar to that of the of the Prince of Wales Leinster Regiment.
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The Soldiers cap badge looks similar to that of the of the Prince of Wales Leinster Regiment.

It does, but not the Leinster badge you show. In 1915/16 the Leinster Regiment needed extra badges in a hurry. The quickest way was to use the dies of the Welsh Regiment badge with a Leinster scroll fixed below.
Thus we have the Leinster badge with the rounded scroll ends similar to the Welsh Regiment badge.
I think the soldier in the photo is in the Welsh regiment.
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I thought that people didn't smile because of the long exposure time.

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This was my understanding too sorry
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