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Old 16-08-08, 02:24 AM
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This looks like a guy who may have seen some action. Item # 350087824325


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Old 16-08-08, 03:14 AM
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An interesting set, however, the seller states in his reply to a question that the medals are not named...quite possibly a replacement set, or a set made up as per his entitlement. I might have a go if the medals were ok. However, since the group is likely a "put-together" I would stay well away.
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Yes no name on the CD puts the whole lot in question to bad
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Old 16-08-08, 11:45 AM
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Hi Paul and Ray, what about the WW2 Khaki FSC with a QC Canadian Guards badge. I thought they had ceased wearing those in 1945.
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Old 16-08-08, 01:30 PM
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I don't know when they stopped wearing that cap but he stayed in so I guess he could have worn it as long as they wore the kahki battledress, WW 2 medals were not named at least the campaign medals. but like paul said the CD should. Ray
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Old 16-08-08, 04:47 PM
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I don't know when they stopped wearing that cap but he stayed in so I guess he could have worn it as long as they wore the khaki battledress, WW 2 medals were not named at least the campaign medals. but like paul said the CD should. Ray

The khaki FSC was out of use by 1943-44 and was not authorized for wear. At no time did the Cdn Guards wear this headdress.
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now this is odd, I replied to this topic but my reply is not here. I simply stated that the CD should be named, and the fact there was no bar to the CD was a little bit of concern as well. The fellow served from 1941 until the 60s some time. The CD is awarded for 12 years good service. A bar is awarded for each additional 10 years service.

This bein said, the medal bar is very suspect, which in my mind throws doubt on the entire lot. Seems to me someone is going to burned.

This is just my opinion, in regards to this lot offered. Reading the rest of the replies, looks as if I am not alone in this one.
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Old 16-08-08, 05:32 PM
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Another point I would like to bring, the medals seems to be really brand new or are copies or is it just me? The three stars look like they were minted last week and the ICSC (International Commission for Supervision and Control Service) medal for Viet-Nam (1954-1958) looks like it's painted black (originally it's a bronze finish). Lastly, the medals don't look like they were ever worn.
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The photos aren't great but the ICSC medal looks ok from here, however, like the CD, it should also be named.

At a glance, the medals look ok, except the CD which is a bit more shiny than I'd expect. Difficult to say if it is a copy or an unnamed original from the photos.

Still, original WWII medals or not, the set is, at best, a put-together job.

The others have made excellent points about the FSC as well.

A dubious grouping that someone is going to be fleeced on.
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Old 16-08-08, 09:39 PM
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The photos aren't great but the ICSC medal looks ok from here, however, like the CD, it should also be named.

At a glance, the medals look ok, except the CD which is a bit more shiny than I'd expect. Difficult to say if it is a copy or an unnamed original from the photos.

Still, original WWII medals or not, the set is, at best, a put-together job.

The others have made excellent points about the FSC as well.

A dubious grouping that someone is going to be fleeced on.
Does any member here have an idea of the value of the pieces on an idividual bases?? I think the total amount may not be all that far out of line with the auction bid at my last glance, about 500.00??

What are your thoughts?
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Old 16-08-08, 11:49 PM
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Well, I like the reaction I got from that one. I would like to hear from Pipes or Bill A on when the cap was last worn & if there was an order out prohibiting the wearing of it after a certain date.Thanks Guys Ray
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Well for those interested....hoping he (the buyer) is not losing the rent money on this.
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final bit at $810.00 USD. I guess I must have missed something in that auction. I figures $500.00 Was on the high side.
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The other thing that I forgot to mention was the Guards cap. This pattern was for Guardsmen (Privates) and was not the pattern worn by officers.
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Sorry about the late reply. The FS cap was withdrawn from Canadian use by 1945. It was replaced starting in 1943 by the beret. There may have been examples of it in use by the reserve army, but not by the Guards. They were formed long after the cap was withdrawn.
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