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13-05-10, 11:36 AM
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Royal Irish Fusiliers (#8 Eagle)
Did the Royal Irish Fusileers ever wear the #8 French Eagle as a cap or collar on its own (without the grenade)?
 
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13-05-10, 12:26 PM
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13-05-10, 12:27 PM
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Hi Griff,
I don't much about the cap badge or collar badges but I bought this one from a good friend some time ago, we were never quite sure what it is, belt or pouch, it is white metal and it stands 39 mm in height. Perhaps we can kill two birds with one stone, you could find the answer to your question and I may get a definitive decision on my badge ??  Dave. 
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13-05-10, 01:03 PM
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hi griff,
to my knowledge there has never been any defentive proof ie picture or regulation about the eagle being worn. however you will probably find said eagle badge in every irish collectors range of badges hi dave, cant say for certainty but if it was worn i would say a pouch badge philip
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13-05-10, 01:26 PM
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Thanks for the replies all...... Daves definatley looks like a "Pouch Badge"..... the example I have shown....... is possibly an early "Pouch badge" c1900? But if it is ..... then would it not have "period" bolts, nuts and washers?
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13-05-10, 02:39 PM
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this one is an officers cross belt pouch badge for the Royal Irish Regiment. John
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13-05-10, 02:50 PM
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There is speculation that it may have been worn as an arm badge by the Faugh's Regimental Police. But I know of no corroborating data to support this. In my opinion/experience it has never been worn as a cap badge or a collar badge. The Faugh's did wear at least one arm badge , this was the 5th Lancers/8th Hussars pattern arm badge with the crown removed. The badge was worn on the arm of the regimental dancers and I believe the Pipe Major. This badge was supplier at regimental expense, was not officially authorised and I believe the crown removal was done by the supplier. In terms of it the Eagle badge being used as a pouch ornament, the Pipers did not wear a sporran and the only candidate I can think of might be a musicians pouch but I have never seen evidence of a badge in use. There are (relatively speaking) a lot of these eagle badges about with no evidence of their use (that I know of) thus I am highly suspicious of them. John
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13-05-10, 03:31 PM
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Thank you sir, you have made my day....................a name for it at last. Regards. Dave.
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13-05-10, 04:31 PM
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13-05-10, 07:20 PM
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Hi Chaps
could i have confirmation on this badge ID please is it earlier than Daves or does it belong to another regiment. Cheers Malc
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13-05-10, 07:27 PM
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Hi Malc,
If you ever want to part with it, give us a bell, If you want more than 59p, I'll have to come out of retirement,  I'm sure you will be told what it is very soon, oh, is it silver or silver plate ?? Dave.
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13-05-10, 08:55 PM
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Not too sure if there was a difference in the officer's pouch badge for the Royal Irish Rangers or Royal Irish Regiment, but they are both beauties. Would gladly have them on my board!
As far as the eagle shown by Griff is concerned, the best theory I have heard, which has come from one of the senior staff at the Fusiliers museum in Armagh, and not a volunteer guide (as spoken to before), is that it is probably a re-strike/copy of an arm badge worn by regimental police. This is one breed of eagle which certainly isn't endangered! I look upon them as something you must own to prove you are a bona fide collector of Irish badges! John
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13-05-10, 11:36 PM
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I believe that this is the pattern worn by the Royal Irish Rangers. John
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14-05-10, 05:22 PM
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Many thanks guys for your replys, good to get a confirmation.
Cheers Malc
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