11th Hussars officers forage cap c.1950-53

[JerryBB]

A recent purchase, 11th Hussars Junior officers forage cap made by Herbert Johnson with royal warrant BY APPOINTMENT HATTERS TO HM THE KING, for King George VI before his demise in February 1952.

It is named on the leather cap band to ALLENBY, there were two Allenby's listed as officers in the 11th Hussars, father and son, the 2nd Viscount who served in the 1930's and his son, the 3rd Viscount who joined the regiment in 1951.

I assume it was the son whose cap this formerly was.

It has plan brass ball buttons and the officers frosted gilt badge.

[monfort1]

Nice !

Hi Jerry,

That is superb! My late uncle did his National Service in the Cherrypickers with said Viscount. He mentioned that - I think tongue in cheek - the mess had so many titled officers that mere 'The Honourable' were looked down upon.

Mark

[Mike H]

Fabulous cap,I bet the field officers cap would look stunning.
The badge interests me,its the non void version which was also made in anodised but replaced by a void version. Does the Officers version exist with the voids ?

[Trubia26]

What a beauty !!!! Some day I will get one! Congratulations!!

[JerryBB]

thank you Eric, Mark, Mike & Trubia, I was very pleased to get and it is my xmas present to me.

I cannot answer your questions on voided badges Mike, I bought the cap without being up on the badges but could see it was a good officers gilt badge.

[cbuehler]

Very nice cap; back when quality materials and construction were still to be expected.

CB

[Frank Kelley]

It certainly does in Service Dress.

Originally Posted by Mike H

Fabulous cap,I bet the field officers cap would look stunning.
The badge interests me,its the non void version which was also made in anodised but replaced by a void version. Does the Officers version exist with the voids ?

[Trubia26]

Can I ask you something? I have been searching in the web about this type of peaked caps...sometimes I see in scarlet colour...others looks like a darker red colour...almost maroon...What is the correct colour for hussars?

[JerryBB]

Originally Posted by Trubia26

Can I ask you something? I have been searching in the web about this type of peaked caps...sometimes I see in scarlet colour...others looks like a darker red colour...almost maroon...What is the correct colour for hussars?

I always find reddish colours difficult to capture true colours, in the hand with a maroon para beret it is more red and less marron.
The beret in the pic is also 1950's

[Trubia26]

Oh...I see...it is more reddish than maroon...but not so reddish as scarlet, right?...let me show you why I am so confused

These looks maroon



But these looks scarlet



This is the more similar to yours I found...

[JerryBB]

more red than maroon but not so red to be scarlet

[Trubia26]

Ok...your comparative pictures are really useful...thanks a lot!

[3748 Hussar]

Info

Last photo QOH tercentenary parade 1985

In the picture

Colonel-in-Chief Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother
Col Regt Lieutenant-General Sir Robin Carnegie
Commanding officer Lt Col Jenkins
Capt Thomas 2ic DSqn


Tony C

[cbuehler]

The correct term for the color as worn by the descendants of the 11th Hussars is crimson. It is not scarlet, maroon, nor red, though often mistakenly termed as such. The "cherry bums" refers to the breeches; the crimson breeches worn by the 11th and now carried over to the present regiment.

CB