Seaforth Highlanders Officer's Badge - British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

billy · #1 19-03-21, 08:13 AM

Seaforth Highlanders Officers Cap Badge, can only compare against the Gordon Highlanders 3D badge in regards to the Antlers The Gordons I have the Antlers are all well sculptured / Textured? This Seaforth Antlers are Plain, the Head has the little Tuft on forehead and Eyes look good as does the Ears, but I see like flash along Antler in places which looks like it was molded? Is this normal?

Looks like badge has been married together the Crown and Thistle can see Golden colour right side below Crown "Silver Plated perhaps?"

Scroll look good and Heavy but bright newish?

Stag looks Older by far from other two parts, (which am happy if it is!) Deffinition on Antlers is very plain, on Gordon Highlanders Antlers are textured, look like wood bark! These Antlers are plain and has Flash on side, I could fix all this if need be but only if real!

Appreciate your thoughts on this many thanks Billy

tonyb · #2 19-03-21, 10:15 AM

Billy, the badge you discuss looks to be the all ranks Highlanders badge, not sure of dates but I think 1990's.
https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ictureid=21964
Tony.

billy · #3 19-03-21, 04:29 PM

Thanks Tony

cbuehler · #4 19-03-21, 09:50 PM

Hi Billy,
The badge you show is an officer or senior NCO example for the Highlanders, not Seaforth, which I have included a picture. The OR version was flat, not 3D.
The only difference is the coronet and cipher is replaced by the crown and thistle of to commemorate the Cameron Hlders.
These and the Gordon 3D badges were made by many makers and jewellers and are all cast. The variations are innumerable and quality varies considerably; the detail of the antlers in particular. Some were hallmarked silver, but most were not.
The scroll and stag of your badge does appear to be older than the crown and thistle, but it did happen that older Seaforth badges were used in combination with the newer top part. One frequently sees the scroll and stag sold separately due to the old coronet and cipher being lost, or the crown/thistle for that matter.
The scroll and stag alone may have been worn by Sergeants of the Seaforths at some time as well, although I have not had this confirmed to my knowledge.

CB

tonyb · #5 19-03-21, 10:17 PM

Knew I'd read it somewhere.
An image from *John Gaylor's book*
(**Narpood by some on forum)
So who knows.....
Cheers Tony.

cbuehler · #6 19-03-21, 10:40 PM

I am not at all sure the 3D badge was fully implemented. It was certainly not in the QO Highlanders, which I forgot to mention as wearing this badge as well.

CB

billy · #7 20-03-21, 03:41 PM

Thanks C.B. and yourself Tony, Stag looks the older so am happy with that! All the best billy

grey_green_acorn · #8 20-03-21, 05:25 PM

Billy,

I think your badge is the all ranks badge of The Highlanders (amalgamation of the Queen's Own Highlanders and the Gordon Highlanders) worn from 1994 to 2006.

I have attached a JSP768 extract which describes it as Nickel silver. Bright silver plate. NSN 8455-99-869-1594

I have an example which appears identical to yours with lug placement and detail on the stag.

Tim

Mike H · #9 20-03-21, 06:47 PM

The Highlanders ORs wore the flat 2 piece in the TOS. The 3D 3 piece was used in the glengarry.

cbuehler · #10 20-03-21, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike H

The Highlanders ORs wore the flat 2 piece in the TOS. The 3D 3 piece was used in the glengarry.

Well that would explain why I could not recall seeing the 3D badge in wear by the ORs.

CB

Watchdog · #11 07-06-21, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyb

Billy, the badge you discuss looks to be the all ranks Highlanders badge, not sure of dates but I think 1990's.
https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ictureid=21964
Tony.

Quite correct and as also stated above the same design was worn by The Queens Own Highlanders (Seaforths and Camerons)although the two badges differ slightly in physical form and in material due to being of earlier / later production.

Here is an example of a Seaforths officers badge cira WWI on a patch of McKenzie tartan as worn on the TOS. On the Glengarry cap it would be worn with a black silk rosette. It is cast (which is the only way to produce such a 3D configuration) in unmarked silver. The badge beside it is the stamped (therefore virtually flat) ORs version of similar vintage shown without rosette or tartan patch.

As comparison with The Gordon Highlanders stag is mentioned I also attach a similar comparison for that regiment to illustrate that the stag differs between the two. Note the Gordon tartan patch in that case is not period but from the '90s.

Regards

Mark