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Old 12-11-12, 09:21 AM
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Could the Royal Marines badge with no crown possibly be the badge with white metal globe and G/m laurels?

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Old 12-11-12, 10:47 AM
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I'm only going by what I see in the forum members albums in this case Taff and as far as I can tell the Police Branch seem to be the only candidates for the badge in the image.
I may be going out on a limb here but may it have been possible that such positions might have been found for time served veterans who were a little long in the tooth for normal regimental duties but wished to continue in the service (extra regimental employment in army terms)?

I hope one of the RM collectors may be able to confirm or otherwise on either point.

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I believe that Dockyard Police, rather than Naval provost type of police, wore a w/m globe and laurel without the crown. They were made up of retired RMs.
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Old 12-11-12, 10:50 AM
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That would certainly fit with the man in the photograph...
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Old 12-11-12, 01:42 PM
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I believe that Dockyard Police, rather than Naval provost type of police, wore a w/m globe and laurel without the crown. They were made up of retired RMs.
Thanks for the confirmation Alan, it makes sense of the photo.

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Could the Royal Marines badge with no crown possibly be the badge with white metal globe and G/m laurels?

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Hi Rob, The only badge that I am aware of that matches your description appears to be an Officer's Collar badge. It seems that the ID of the chap in the image has now been answered.

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Old 15-11-12, 03:09 PM
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I have found this thread very interesting, getting back to the Brodrick and the time scale as to when they were worn. I have a photo of the 6th Battalion The Cheshire Regiment which maybe of interest, three of the men are wearing 4th VB cloth titles while the man kneeling on the left has T/6 Cheshire brass shoulder titles, which I think dates it after 1st April 1908, the man standing on the left is wearing a Broderick?
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Old 15-11-12, 04:51 PM
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Yes it is, and the dating is fascinating, with several aspects competing:

TF dating as you say

Brodrick going but not gone ...... quite a late survivor on the soldier

and I think shoulder cords on the SD jacket, another end of era.

ON THE CUSP I think is what people say these days.
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Old 15-11-12, 05:36 PM
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Super photo. Thanks for sharing. I would not be the first nor the last time that the TF/TA/ARs are slower than the regulars to adopt new dress regulations. I have seen a number of photos circa 1908 with slouch hats and new khaki caps worn along side each other by the TF.
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I believe that Dockyard Police, rather than Naval provost type of police, wore a w/m globe and laurel without the crown. They were made up of retired RMs.
Yes I believe that is correct and have seen several examples as such. Interestingly, in WW1 all other ERE employments, such as the Royal Marine Labour Corps and various other specialist functions also wore just the globe and laurels alone.
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Old 19-01-13, 02:23 PM
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It's good to see this thread still attracting attention and continuing to enlighten.

Here is another relevant image showing REs at play, possibly cadets, again on 'the cusp'.

Ry

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Old 13-09-13, 12:12 AM
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i believe the helmet shown is the 1877 pattern, never heard it called the indian pattern.in the second of your pics it refers to 'indian patt 1897' i wonder if this is the rare cloth covered wicker helmet ,i could understand the 'not to be perforated' and a lugged badge would be almost impossible to fit.
the paragraph concerning 'interchangeablity' in the 4th pic is illegible to me,do you know what it says.
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I was going through some files and have found another record I had where the FSH replaced by the Wolesley was referred to as The Indian Pattern

Here it is attached below from the RACD list of changes WO359, vol 12 p 255 in the entry related to the increase in badge size for the Yorkshire L.I. I admit that this is the only time I recall having seen this term, I can't imagine it is anything other than the 1897 pattern.

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Old 13-09-13, 06:27 AM
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From memory - I'm away from my notes - there is mention of the Indian pattern helmet in vol 20, which is the 'notes' volume. I was never sure what it meant. I'll try and dig out the references at the w/e.
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I have just read this years after it started.

Informative.

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