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Old 28-03-21, 10:36 AM
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Default Royal Navy Rate Badges - Real or Copies

Hi,

I am looking for some guidance in determining real from copy rate badges, especially WW2 era. I have seen the excellent guide by RCN on here, dated 2008. This has certainly given me confidence on some of the badges I have recently purchased. However, I have the following badges that I am still uncertain of.
Can you please assist in letting me know if they are are real or fake.

This first badge appears to meet the guidelines illustrated by RCN. However, this badge appears to be embroidered with synthetic fibres.

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Andy
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Old 28-03-21, 10:37 AM
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This badge looks good, but can someone please confirm.
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Old 28-03-21, 10:40 AM
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These three badges are all embroidered through a black linen type fabric. Are they 1940/1950 period badges?
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Old 28-03-21, 10:43 AM
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These four are again embroidered through a linen backing fabric. However, they are much stiffer and all of them look and feel to be of a modern construction.
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Old 28-03-21, 10:45 AM
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And finally this one. Again, the modern feel to the badge with the linen style backing and same embroidery pattern and materials to the previous four. I love this one, as it has the Kings Crown and NATO Stock number embroidered upon it.
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Andy may be worth p.m Royston He had a massive collection of trade badges -I think now sold He was very helpful inhelping me with R.N related dental badges
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That is the VOCAB number not a NATO Stock Number which should not be found relating to a King’s Crown badge.

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Old 28-03-21, 01:58 PM
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All badges absolutely genuine. All with a crown are pre 1952 "Kings Crown"

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And finally this one. Again, the modern feel to the badge with the linen style backing and same embroidery pattern and materials to the previous four. I love this one, as it has the Kings Crown and NATO Stock number embroidered upon it.
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Some years back a lot of stock and sealed pattern RN badges were 'disposed' off. This is one of the sealed patterns, the number relates to the RN accounting Vocabulary system the RN used.

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Old 28-03-21, 04:04 PM
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Hi,

Thanks for your contributions. Some re-assuring news on these badges. Thanks Tim for pointing out the number is the Vocab Number and not the NSN. I knew that, but still typed the wrong thing. An age thing unfortunately.

The sealed pattern with the Tudor/King's crown is also fascinating to see, as I also believed it shouldn't exist with the Vocab number.

Thank you again to everyone who contributed.
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[The sealed pattern with the Tudor/King's crown is also fascinating to see, as I also believed it shouldn't exist with the Vocab number.

The Vocab number is correct, if it had an NSN and KC, I would be worried.

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