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Excellent copy of the brass Canadian Parachute Corps badge
Ebay item 380136863410 For those of you who have not seen these badges I can tell you from personal experience that they are very well done. In fact I would say that they will fool anyone who is not familiar with the real thing. I picked up one that will go in the frame with my copy of the print "8 minutes after midnight" by Robert Bailey. Worst part for the uneducated is that these repro badges are made from proper weight brass stock and the lugs are convincing although positioned differently from my original badges. These put those crappy British fakes to shame as they are made in the correct style and are not copies of the officer's badge trying to be passed off as enlisted men's badges. Beware...
Last edited by Infanteer; 05-12-09 at 01:04 AM. |
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Some photos.... look close so that you don't get stung by one of these.
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Reverse. Note that the brass is the proper thickness to the naked eye and the lugs are convincing as well. These are being sold as repros but it's only a matter of time before they turn up on various dealer's tables and websites.
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Thanks Steve. They are an impressive copy.
Your first post in this string has me thinking. CPC is the official abbreviation of the Canadian Postal Corps. Is the official abbreviation for the airborne, C Para C? |
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No, I don't think so since there officially never was a parachute corps in Canada. There is a good explanation of how the badge came to be in the book "Into the Maelstrom". I'm not a badge collector per se, and so sometimes I use terms and abbreviations that are specific to my group of friends and because I am lazy sometimes. I've fixed the title of the thread.
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Hi Steve, You actually raised a good question. All the regiments and corps of the Canadian army had official abbreviations and were expected to use them. The abbreviation was used on metal titles, cloth shoulder titles, letter head, in communication, etc. The posting got me thinking about what the official abbreviation for the Canadian Parachute Corps was.
I am in frequent contact with Ken Joyce, and I emailed him about the official abbreviation, and he said that to the best of his knowledge there isn't one. |
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Like I said, I can understand that there was no official abbreviation for the Canadian Parachute Corps as this never existed, but surely there would have been an abbreviation for 1 Canadian Parachute Battalion... 1 CPB?
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Well thanks for the Heads-up Well give credit to the seller for their honesty! I posted his Picture of the Fake one. |
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WOW this copy certainly is a very very scary one. I too pulled out my badge to see the differences. OUCH, closest I have seen yet.
Why do I have a sick felling in the pit of my stomach about the future of badge collecting?
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Cliff http://www.irishregimentofcanada.ca |
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Tell me about it. I was just at a gun show in Edmonton this weekend and an elderly gentleman was selling one of these repros as original... already!!! I carefully brought the subject up and explained why I believed the badge to be a repro and even had one (repro) in hand to show that they are exactly the same. Unfortunately, he bought it as original and was reluctant to take my word, even with an example in hand. He never did lower his price after I left because someone else told him that it was good. Problem is that other people are not aware of these repros yet and so they don't know what to look for. Sadly, as the quality of repros/fakes improves and they get cheaper and cheaper to manufacture it is only a matter of time before this hobby goes the way of German Third Reich insignia.....
There are at least three points to look for but I'm reluctant to discuss them for fear that they may be improved upon or hidden through artificial wear.... Last edited by Infanteer; 09-12-09 at 01:00 AM. |
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Good Point
I totaly agree the fakes and high quality reproductions will do nothing more than destroy the industry (it has long stopped being a hobby) and eventually everything will be suspect. Why anyone would want to own an exact copy is beyond me, I can understand placeholder pieces and re-enactor kit, but does it have to be so exact as to be undetectable form the real item? As far as I am concerned these exact copies are manufactured for one purpose and one purpose only, to deceive.
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A couple of more photos to try to show some details. I am redoing this post to save some bandwidth rather than adding more and more photos. These photos show the vital points. Compare with an original.
Stippling on back side of chute. Small nick on chute (present on all fakes so far). Stippling and crispness of lettering of scroll. Placement of lugs. After giving it some thought, some of these details will be pretty much impossible to improve after the fact, but the manufacturer can improve upon them if he wants to fool people, which I don't think he does... unless these are the rejects and perfect copies already exist..... Just fooling. Last edited by Infanteer; 15-12-09 at 08:46 PM. |
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This looks very real to me Sir |
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Well that's the problem, isn't it.... these are two of the same repro badges. If you think they're real then expect to get stung down the road when these types of badges make their way into collector's hands
Best advice I can give is study known originals so that when you see a good repro the incorrect details will be apparent. I have edited the above post and shown more photos and given some points to look for. Last edited by Infanteer; 15-12-09 at 08:47 PM. |
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New photos added....
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