Hello

[Another Bubble]

Hello all,

I joined this forum about a month ago & am finally making my first post.

I've been collecting about 3 months & thought I'd share my collection with you all. I don't have photos of the backs of any but if any of you want a picture of the back of any, just shout. I think they're genuine but I'd appreciate any feedback about any slip ups I might have made. Cheers.

Starting with the first 15.

Edited to add: I'm not sure if my first posts are in the right forum.

[ubervamp]

Hi and welcome!

It might be an idea to create an album and upload all the images to it. If you can get pics of the rears that always helps in authenticating, as sliders, lugs etc are often useful tells.
It'll make it easier for members to browse and comment upon.

Cheers

Colin

[manchesters]

Before you go any further, please post pictures of the rears of this lot, because so far I am a little worried for you.

regards

[Another Bubble]

Thanks for the replies so far.

I'll try & get photos of the rears posted later tonight.

Out of curiosity, what is it that you've seen so far that is giving you cause for concern?

[ubervamp]

For one, The Birmingham Pals is a reproduction. It should have a "beard" and "fur".

[manchesters]

Originally Posted by ubervamp

For one, The Birmingham Pals is a reproduction. It should have a "beard" and "fur".

What birmingham Pals?

regards

[manchesters]

Originally Posted by Another Bubble

Thanks for the replies so far.

I'll try & get photos of the rears posted later tonight.

Out of curiosity, what is it that you've seen so far that is giving you cause for concern?

Patina, rear fittings, metals used, well known fake badges - We will know more when the backs are revealed.

regards

[Jelly Terror]

Originally Posted by Another Bubble

Hello all,

I joined this forum about a month ago & am finally making my first post.

I've been collecting about 3 months & thought I'd share my collection with you all. I don't have photos of the backs of any but if any of you want a picture of the back of any, just shout. I think they're genuine but I'd appreciate any feedback about any slip ups I might have made. Cheers.

Starting with the first 15.

Edited to add: I'm not sure if my first posts are in the right forum.

Hello AB,

I'll have a crack at one of your London badges: Finsbury Rifles.

One thing you will ascertain once you get to grips with the forum's search facility, is that the little raised mark below the word 'ARIS', on the upper arm of the cross, is considered among many collectors to be the mark of a fake Finsbury Rifles badge (hope you don't mind me reproducing part of your image below, in order to illustrate the point?). I am sure you'll agree that nobody likes a spotty ARIS!

In addition, your badge appears to have lugs, or loop fixings, as opposed to a slider; potentially, also a sign of a moody badge for this unit.

Lastly (and this can also, on occasions, be a bone of contention), the crown is non-voided.

Finsbury Rifles.jpg

So for each of these reasons, I would say that this particular badge is very likely not to be a genuine example.

Regards,

JT

[Another Bubble]

Thanks for the tips.

I don't mind about reproducing part of my image, it was very helpful.

I'm off to work now so hopefully I should get the album sorted later.

Cheers

Steve

[Another Bubble]

Ok, I've got them uploaded into an album showing fronts & backs. I appreciate some of the photos aren't great so if you want a picture showing a particular part of a badge, let me know & I'll sort it out.

Also, Jelly Terror, what do you mean when you say "the crown is non-voided"? I don't understand.

Cheers

Steve

[manchesters]

Steve,

My initial hunch has not changed. I think about 75% are duds.
Also a lot seem to be from the same faker. Have you bought a lot of one person/dealer?

regards

[Another Bubble]

Simon,

I've bought from several dealers at several venues. I think I've bought off 2 dealers twice each & the rest, just the once.

I'm not surprised to have picked up some duds but disappointed to have so many.

Any chance you can tell me what the giveaways are, like Jelly Terror has?

Cheers

[Jelly Terror]

Originally Posted by Another Bubble

Ok, I've got them uploaded into an album showing fronts & backs. I appreciate some of the photos aren't great so if you want a picture showing a particular part of a badge, let me know & I'll sort it out.

Also, Jelly Terror, what do you mean when you say "the crown is non-voided"? I don't understand.

Cheers

Steve

Steve,

My apologies.

The picture below shows a 'voided' crown. It has areas where the metal has been cut away or omitted.

image.jpg

In your example, the crown has no such spaces; the whole area is solid and displays no cut-outs. You may on occasion also encounter others referring to these voided areas as being 'pierced'. I'm sure there are other words in usage, but these, I would say, are probably the most commonly used.

Regards,

JT

[Jelly Terror]

Originally Posted by Another Bubble

Ok, I've got them uploaded into an album showing fronts & backs. I appreciate some of the photos aren't great so if you want a picture showing a particular part of a badge, let me know & I'll sort it out.

Also, Jelly Terror, what do you mean when you say "the crown is non-voided"? I don't understand.

Cheers

Steve

Lastly, I thought you might be interested in seeing an example of the 11th County of London badge, with a voided centre:

image.jpg

(Apologies for the poor-quality image).

JT

[Another Bubble]

Thanks for the picture of a good one.

Disappointed it's a dud but I got it for less than a tenner, so not too painful!