unidentified civilian uniform buttons

[btns]

Originally Posted by 4966Ian

Hi Again,

Sorry, it has taken a while to go through all the pictures. Thanks for showing them, and putting the sizes and backmarks. As it will make future reference so much easier and useful.

With regards to Button 62 - Bottom of Page 1.

62. H.A.C. and KC; gilt 19 mm, could this be Honourable Artillery Company?; Firmin, London

This button is shown in Norman Litchfield's book on Royal Artillery Buttons.
See Page 25 - The Honourable Artillery Company.
It shows exactly the same crown which it calls a 'high arched crown (Victorian)' .

However, that is where the good news stops as it says:

"Exactly who wore this button and when is not known - being in gilt and brass it is possible they were worn by the Artillery Division at some time. The back mark on the officer’s button “J. BIDEN, 46 Cheapside” suggests it was in use prior to 1840. The other rank’s version with the backmark ”Firmin, London” indicates that it was also in use at a much later date."


So I am afraid it is a sort of a good news - bad news answer.

All the best

Ian

Thank you for your help.
Norman Litchfield was one of the leading button experts. Only a true expert will tell you he is unsure of the use of a button.
There do not seem too many around and I am now listing it as a private purchase military button.
(and there is one more book to get hold of)

[btns]

Originally Posted by GTB

One must bear in mind that RNAS had a Royal Crown above eagle. I think Fleet Air Arm squadrons would be a good contender


GTB

Using the button on Fleet Air Arm blazers would get the seller a much bigger group of potential buyers.
On the other hand FAA buttons with the badge design are available as laser engraved buttons:
https://www.britishmilitarystore.co....-Blazer-Button

This design matches the FAA badge and has a QC not a naval coronet.

[btns]

Originally Posted by 4966Ian

Hi Again,

With regards Button 17 in Post #3 (1st Page)

17. monogram letters L.C., silver plated 17 mm, no backmark .

I think it maybe for 'Lowther College".
Having searched on-line, I am assuming it is this Girls College -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowther_College

I found this (see picture below) in a Book called "Scholastic Arms " by G.K. Beaulah published 1936.
There looks to have been quite a few late additions to the book as it says 'Prints added to this collection subsequently are not described among the blazons' - and this is unfortunately, one such late addition.

However, when I have looked on line, this is not the crest of the school - as that is a 'very busy/intricate' design - see here:
https://amounderness.co.uk/lowther_college,_lytham.html

Of course, for a relatively small college, it may have been easier/cheaper to go for the fairly simple "LC" design on buttons instead of trying to replicate the school's crest.

Btns - I hope you don't mind, I have copied your original button into this post to make it easier to compare the two side by side.

All the best

Ian

Dear Ian,
It is a one piece button and has all features of a school uniform button.
I am sure you have found it. Again, thank you very much.
Thank you for the book reference. I had been using cigarette cards to identify school uniform buttons.
You are welcome to use my images.
best regards,


One question: did school girls have metal buttons on their uniforms?

[Lazio]

reviving this thread did you find any other of the unknowns from this list over the past few years?

[Lazio]

71.is Ariel boat club
150.is the university pitt club cambridge

[Phil2M]

MAB, button 34 is Metropolitan Asylums Board. I can't remember my source for that.

[btns]

Originally Posted by Lazio

reviving this thread did you find any other of the unknowns from this list over the past few years?

Hi,
Thank you for your reviving the thread.
I am planning to post an up to date list.
best regards,
Gerard