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Old 02-01-18, 03:01 PM
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Default "14", bugle horn, with laurels leaves badge

I am hoping that someone can help identify the unit, use (i.e. cap, pouch, etc) and date of this badge. As follows:

-number "14", inside a bugle horn, with laurels leaves surmounting
-gilding metal/brass die-stamped construction
-two wire lugs on reverse
-measures 68 mm (2 5/8 inches) wide X 50 mm (2 inches) high

Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Happy New Year's wishes to all,

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Old 02-01-18, 03:26 PM
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Attached are pictures of Glengarry badges of the 13th and 15th Lancashire Rifle Volunteers, other than probably being a Rifle Volunteers item, you may not be able to positively identify the 14th badge.

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Old 02-01-18, 04:20 PM
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Tim. as PB has said these badges with a numeral and a bugle horn could be attributed to a number of Rifle Volunteer units, unless positive ID can be established from contemporary photographs it's mission impossible I'm afraid.

Sorry not to be of more help.

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Old 02-01-18, 05:03 PM
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Thank you Peter and Rob. You are right about the difficulty of pinning this piece down, given the tendency for "generic" rifles badges.

The quest may not be helped that it could have been used by an Overseas unit. I found it years ago while living near Kingston, Ontario, Canada.

I hold out the hope, as was alluded to, of a photograph.

Your inputs are greatly appreciated, merci encore!

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Hello,

If it was British I would have expected it to be White Metal not brass.

there is always the possibility it was once blackened but cant see any traces of that.

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Old 05-01-18, 02:16 AM
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Thank you, Simon.

I agree with you that the British Rifle Volunteers tended toward white metal, though (just to make life complicated for later generations of collectors!), there would have been exceptions. On very close examination, there is no evidence of blackening/black paint of finish, so gilding metal/brass appears to be it's colour of issue.

I'm leaning toward it being Overseas, more likely Canadian, though admit that I am swayed in that direction by having found it there, which is far from conclusive evidence.

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