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Old 02-06-24, 10:04 AM
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Recently I picked up what appears to be a very nice left facing Hertfordshire Yeomanry cap / collar badge in white metal.

Does anyone have any information on when these were worn and on what dress?

I was unaware the Herts Yeo ever wore a Wm badge.
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Old 02-06-24, 10:31 AM
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Definitely Herts Yeo, not the Herts and Beds Yeo cap badge ( "shallow" ground as compared to deep, curved ground)?

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Old 02-06-24, 10:42 AM
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Here’s the badge, Leigh.

The loops are toned almost black and has what looks to be dried on ‘soldiers friend’ residue.
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Old 02-06-24, 10:48 AM
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Hi Luke,

As discussed this is my pair.
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Old 02-06-24, 10:50 AM
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Ah right, the "deep, curved ground" as I think of it. I think K&K show only in gilding metal as a cap, same as Churhills as a collar.
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Old 02-06-24, 10:54 AM
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K&K 1448 shows cap badge as gilding metal, also in white metal.
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Old 02-06-24, 10:57 AM
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Page 110, plate 72 of The Hertfordshire Yeomanry an illustrated history by J. D. Sainsbury mentions it in either "white metal or brass"
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Old 02-06-24, 11:05 AM
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Page 109, The Hertfordshire Yeomanry an illustrated history by J. D. Sainsbury

"The 'pill box' cap was worn with this uniform until 1906, when it began to be replaced by a peaked forage cap in blue, with a white band and piping and white metal badge (in fact the left facing collar badge)"
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Old 02-06-24, 11:33 AM
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Cheers gents. That’s a super reference thank you Andrew.

Had thought I’d a complete collection of the early Wm cap badges for coloured peaked caps. Clearly I accidentally overlooked the Herts Yeo somehow!
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I knew we would get there in the end.
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Old 03-06-24, 08:44 AM
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The WM badge was also worn by the 86th (Herts Yeomanry )Field Regiment Royal Artillery in the black beret during WW2, the reason for adopting the beret was because they were armed with Sexton SPG, and considered themselves 'armoured', which is fair enough.
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Yes, I came across this site yesterday evening, mentions the black beret, shows illustrations of what appears to be the white metal hart:

https://ra39-45.co.uk/insignia/unit-...ield-regiments
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Old 03-06-24, 11:51 AM
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Yes, I came across this site yesterday evening, mentions the black beret, shows illustrations of what appears to be the white metal hart:

https://ra39-45.co.uk/insignia/unit-...ield-regiments
I've seen two other photos of the Regiment, definitely the white metal one


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Yes, I came across this site yesterday evening, mentions the black beret, shows illustrations of what appears to be the white metal hart:

https://ra39-45.co.uk/insignia/unit-...ield-regiments
The badge on the beret is a rendition of the post-1961 Hertfordshire and Bedfordshire Yeomanry cap badge, not the 1908-61 Herfordshire Yeomanry pattern.
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Old 03-06-24, 12:16 PM
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I have the white metal as full & undress badges, the brass as service dress.
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