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Old 01-02-13, 07:00 AM
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I think another "Banger" as Dave puts it! The voiding as you say casts doubt! But it is the font you need to look at!

I'll get some images on when I get home from work later today!

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I have 3 which i have shown before on another thread,2 of the 3 have sliders, the 3rd has had the slider replaced by lugs but you can still see where the slider was attached.
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Old 01-02-13, 06:26 PM
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Hi Andy your qoute in your album on the 24th "And finally, although Peter states that the badge should be slidered, with a "FIRMIN LONDON" Makers Mark"
is not quite correct he simply shows his example which is Firmin Marked, not all badges i believe were made by Firmin, the badges i own do not have Firmin on them but are Genuine.
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Thanks for your input, Andy. This badge is a bit of a puzzle as it was collected during WW2.
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In that case then.... is the looped one I show a duffer or just a different maker (in your opinion)? I tend to agree with the opinion that its "not" right.....
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Hi Andy your qoute in your album on the 24th "And finally, although Peter states that the badge should be slidered, with a "FIRMIN LONDON" Makers Mark"
is not quite correct he simply shows his example which is Firmin Marked, not all badges i believe were made by Firmin, the badges i own do not have Firmin on them but are Genuine.
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Malc,
album still under construction and yes I agree with what you say, looking at the other Regiments makers other than Firmin also may have made ORs badges! I'll finish uploading etc in the morning as I got an important consultation with messrs Shiraz and Cabernet!!

p.s. Griff yes you've shown a "Banger".

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Old 02-02-13, 10:21 PM
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Good evening Gentlemen,

Both Firmin and Gaunt produced head dress insignia for the 24th Lancers during wartime.
Not all Firmin or Gaunt badge had a slider bearing the manufacturers name. Regarding the officers gilt and enamel head dress badge for No 1 Dress, these were wholly made by Gaunts and were die cast. As Andy correctly states the die stamped version was made by Gaunts c1970's.

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I have 3 which i have shown before on another thread,2 of the 3 have sliders, the 3rd has had the slider replaced by lugs but you can still see where the slider was attached.
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I have an identical one to yours where there is braise to the rear of the crown but on lugs.

It is not from the Firmin die so at best it is a Gaunt badge?

Pic 1 is the reverse of both.
Pic 2 is the front of the lugged one.
Pic 3 is the front of the Firmin marked one.

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For reference this is the modern copy still being churned out today. The poor quality title font is something best suited to Playschool!
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Malc

I have an identical one to yours where there is braise to the rear of the crown but on lugs.

It is not from the Firmin die so at best it is a Gaunt badge?

Pic 1 is the reverse of both.
Pic 2 is the front of the lugged one.
Pic 3 is the front of the Firmin marked one.

Alan
Yes it’s Gaunt die evident from the crown and (mis) alignment of the two vertical jewels in the band.
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I hadn’t noticed the jewels thank you for showing that. The tell for me was the distinct shoulders on the reverse of the lugged Gaunt badge between lance and crown which are blank, in that they do not show the mirror image of the seeding. The same area on the Firmin example does. I had thought that my Gaunt, which is in pristine condition, was perhaps a true 1970’s Gaunt restrike that Peter Seaman had referred to. I’m a bit more hopeful after reading this.
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