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Old 30-05-24, 12:21 PM
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Hi All,

I bought this cheap thinking it might have been an officers collar badge but now it's arrived and I've cleaned it up a little I'm not sure what I have.

Were the bi-metal cap badges issued with lugs?

Can anyone help?

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Michael
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Old 30-05-24, 12:56 PM
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Yes they were.
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Old 30-05-24, 01:08 PM
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Thanks Alan,

So this is an OR's cap badge then.

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Thanks Alan,

So this is an OR's cap badge then.

Michael
Yes, an OR cap badge. The cap badge design was only worn in bronze OSD as a collar badge.
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Old 31-05-24, 06:37 AM
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Thanks a lot
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Is that badge genuine? I would have expected an early lugged version to have vent holes behind the scroll and better definition on the rear?
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Alex, I am far from any kind of a knowledgeable person on badges, but as a cast badge, which I think this is, would it still have vent holes?

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I don't think this is cast, badges of this period should have been die-stamped and the overlay spot welded. The vent holes were to allow the solder to flow. As it is a lugged badge, probably dating to pre-1908, I would expect holes. I believe there are exceptions so wouldn't say it is a repro without somebody more knowledgeable to comment.
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Thanks for the comments Gents, I'd be interested to know what people think. Have I ended up with a fake?

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Old 02-06-24, 08:23 AM
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Michael

For give me if you know this already but the first pattern cap badge for the FSC was lugged with a regimental castle (pic enclosed). Circa 1901 this was supposed to be changed to standard castle but old badges were worn out. 1903 the NP cap (Brodrick) is adopted and the fixings changed to a long slider which is shortened in 1906 with the khaki peaked cap. Caveat this with the fact that in India the FSC was still worn up to 1914.

So for your badge to be correct it would have to be early and I suspect the construction is not right.

The slidered badge I show dates from the 1940s (I have provenance for it). There are no brasing holes but the reverse definition is sharper on the lettering.

On balance I suspect yours is a restrike from an old but worn die and the blacking was added to age it.

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Hi Alan,

Thank you very much for the explanation, I didn't know that and am always very grateful for the help I get from people on the forum so I can try and learn more.

Through my family history research I've discovered a relative who was an officer in the 1st battalion during WW1. I've managed to get an OSD cap badge and one collar badge for him and thought this might have been a second one that had been poorly photographed and listed wrong (I'll share the original photo). It was only a few pounds so was worth a gamble.

I would have been very happy to add it as an OR's cap badge to my general collection but now I'll add it to my bag of duds and chalk it up to experience (although I might also see if I can return it).

Thank you and everyone else once again for the help.

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