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Old 03-05-24, 09:55 AM
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Are these silver collars North Irish Horse as I think 5LAN would be gilt and 8HUS would have a gilt crown? Denis
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I would agree that they are not 5th Lancers or 8th Hussars, although not sure what they are.
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I'd say that they are 16th/5th Lancers.

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These are 16/5th Lancer collar badges
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Properly termed the Maid of Erin, they are not NIH collars to my knowledge.
NIH wore the same design as the cap badge, but smaller.

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These are 16/5th Lancer collar badges
Post 1954.

https://deadspartan.co.uk/shop.php?code=75373

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Hello all

Back in 2017 I wrote an article entitled 'Overview of Other Ranks Collar Badges of the 16th/5th Queens Royal Lancers' and it was published in The Royal Lancers journal - The Chapka 2017 and can be googled/viewed online PDF flip format pages 108-109.
I think and indeed hope it will answer your questions/queries on this subject.

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Many thanks Rob and Leigh for posting the link. Excellent interesting article which has solved the mystery once and for all. I suppose being officers collars for only 3 years and then only very little worn if at all must make them quite scarce? Denis
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Hi

Thanks Leigh for posting link properly.


Denis,

The Collar Badges described in my Article are NOT Officers, they are Other Ranks. Having studied you Collars again more carefully, they appear to be an unmatched pair of cast wm or silver Harps with loop fixings NS. This is not correct for 16th/5th 'Irish Harps' describe in the Article. They were only ever produced die struck in wm. with a single vertical fixing.

Therefore, I am not at all sure to which Regiment your Harps relate to, as they do not fit the criteria of O/R's 5H,8H or 16/5L to my knowledge.
My apologies for not picking this up in the first place, I will look into this further but an initial thought, if silver could they be, 5H Officers? though I have no reference?
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Hi Rob, thanks for update and becomes more intriguing as to what they are. I have just tested them and sadly they are silver plate, not silver but with polished highlights and they look lovely. It would be great if they were 5L but I would have expected these to be gilt? Denis
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Thanks to all and the link to the article was great. You learn something every day and thanks Denis for asking the question initially. Trouble is now I need a set!
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I have just found this one misidentified amongst my 8th Hussars collar badges.
Seems to fit the 16th/5th other ranks KC die struck white metal with a single vertical lug.

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Collars worn by SNCO's of the Irish Regiment of Canada. Can't tell the metals from the picture. But officer's were silver and gilt. I have been told also in silver only.
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