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The lower word on the drum obviously has some significance and I wonder if it might be the name of the town that the band came from or were based in. Unfortunately it is almost impossible to make out what the word is. |
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This could well be an exception. The City of London National Guard was, I would imagine, not short of a bob or two. I would think their resources stretched a tad further then you average VTC unit. Then again, info about this kind of thing seems so scarce; it's not so easy to gauge. JT |
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Lovely picture, and lots of good suggestions...
To add some from my own research, and also quoting from Mike Obborne's brilliant "Grandad's Army": In June 1916, the Kent Volunteer Regiment organised 48 corps into 12 Battalions, listed in GA's appendices. Some of these were KVR and some were EKVR, but the numbering followed no particular geographic pattern. This 1916 date ties in with other observations on dating the picture. The 8th (Weald & Headcorn) Battalion included Ashford, Cranbrook, Goudhurst and Hawkhurst corps. As far as I can make out, the bottom scroll on the drum says Cranbrook. There is no record of a specific Cranbrook VTC, but Kent organised quite early under the KVF badge, so only two of the 48 corps had a different badge, and only six had a different buttonhole badge. So, not a surprise... To confuse matters slightly, GA cites two "B Companies": 3rd Btn (Tonbridge) in the KVR, where Tonbridge is B Company; 4th Btn (Thanet & Broadstairs) in the EKVR, where Ramsgate is B Company. Could the writing on the back be alluding to the writer's own company, rather that the picture? I can't offer any explanation of the "M" at this time, but will investigate further. Great thread, by the way. Right up my street! Very best regards, Tim |
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Tim,
Many thanks for that and to all the other Members who have commented so far on this thread. The 'M' on the drum is interesting and hopefully may be identified in the future. Regards, Simon. |
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Just to confuse things a bit more !
A WW1 Armistice Exibition by Frittenden Historical Society has the same photo/postcard but it is labelled : Quote:
The photo/postcard appears to have possibly been mislabelled or wrongly attributed but perhaps if you contact the museum there may be more information available. http://www.cranbrookmuseum.org/contacts.html .
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British Legion/Royal British Legion , Poppy/Remembrance/Commemorative. Poppy and British Legion Wanted |
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Thought this might be of interest; a few old Fencibles having their photo taken in the Garden of England, one bright day long ago:
KVF 1a.jpg Can't quite make out the officer's unit/cap & collar badges: KVF 1h Unattached Officer .jpg And we appear to have a few marksmen present too, as denoted by the cloth sleeve badges: KVF 1f Marksman.jpgKVF 1 e Marksman.jpgKVF 1g Marksman.jpg Cloth VTC Marksman.jpgCloth VTC 1st Class.jpg All good men and true. KVF 1b.jpgKVF 1d.jpgKVF 1j.jpgKVF 1i.jpg JT Last edited by Jelly Terror; 20-06-22 at 03:43 PM. |
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Is the Officer Essex Regiment? Chris |
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Wot, an Essex boy goin' sahf o' the rivva?
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Actually, what are these Regular Army officers doing there with the VTC? Are they keeping an eye on them to make sure they're behaving themselves and not getting delusions of grandeur thinking they're real Army, or are they maybe on like an exchange weekend, with the VTC Company Commandant in a swap, having his picture taken somewhere in a support trench in Flanders, up to his knees in mud and drinking petrol-flavoured, bomb-crater water from a boot?
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Many thanks for the links, will send an email and see if anything further comes to light. Simon. |
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Great photographs, another one here I picked up some time ago. Nice image with the two armbands and the Central Association VTC badge. Simon |
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So this bloke is not only wearing the ‘George’s Wrecks’ brassard, but appears also to have attested under the Derby Scheme? He’s suspended in a kind of paradoxical, social no man’s land on home turf… on the one hand (or arm) he’s displaying with his grey (khaki?) Derby Scheme brassard that he has been officially recognised as eligible and willing to fight, and on the other arm his red Georgius Rex armlet is telling the world he is not to be mistaken for a real soldier. DS & VTC Brassards IWM LLT.jpg There’s a fascinating article by Laura Ugolini titled ‘The Illicit Consumption of Military Uniforms in Britain, 1914-1918’, wherein she explores the motives behind the need for many people at that time to assert their patriotic identities through the acquisition and donning of military garments and accoutrements. An absolutely fascinating read. JT Last edited by Jelly Terror; 21-06-22 at 02:45 PM. |
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