Royal Scots Fusiliers 1900 badge.

[Parabellum]

Hi,
I wondered if any member had a better photo of the Fur cap/Glengarry cap badge worn by the RSF for a very short period in 1900.
The sealed date for both head-dress is 27th July 1900.
The only picture I have is the Glengarry badge from the dress regulations of that year.
The difference to the more common QVC badge is that it carries the Victorian Royal Crest like the KC badge of 1901.
Neil.

[Alan O]

This one? https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ctureid=117439

[Parabellum]

Hi Alan,
No that's got the single crown, the one I want to find out about has a lion on top of the crown, a Victorian crown royal crest.
Same as the KC version.
Neil.

[Alan O]

Never ever seen one.

[cbuehler]

I collect RSF, but am likewise unaware of this badge.

CB

[Parabellum]

Apart from the photo in the dress regs I haven't seen one either.
The information I have regarding it is as follows:
" The details of the Royal Arms corrected to sketch 61002/6883 "

There are three changes
a. Crown displaced by the Royal Crest of England.
b. Garter changes from an oval to circular form.
c. Shape of the scrolls altered.

The sealed pattern numbers are:
Glengarry - 9994A
Fur cap - 9696A

That's all really, I do believe some were made, but as to whether the regiment received them is another matter and we'll probably only know for sure if one turns up.

Neil.

[Scottish Borderers]

This may be the one you mention

https://www.officerscolours.com/en-G...ge-/prod_10315

Gerry

[cbuehler]

That is one of the modern copies of an officer's fur cap grenade. Victorian Officer's badges had the crest, but not OR to my knowledge.

CB

[Parabellum]

The officer's design has both single crown and crest.

[cbuehler]

Originally Posted by Parabellum

The officer's design has both single crown and crest.

That is an OR fur cap grenade, not an officer. Officer badges were gilt with a separately attached Royal Arms.

CB

[Parabellum]

Here is a two piece with a single crown.

[Alex Rice]

Originally Posted by Parabellum

Here is a two piece with a single crown.

Looking at that compared to the example in the link in post 7, I would say the lion has just broken off the top of the crown in this badge.

[Parabellum]

Originally Posted by cbuehler

That is an OR fur cap grenade, not an officer. Officer badges were gilt with a separately attached Royal Arms.

CB

I don't know where uniformology source their badges, but it is portrayed as gilt/officer's and is of a different design to the ORs badge.

[Toby Purcell]

Originally Posted by Parabellum

I don't know where uniformology source their badges, but it is portrayed as gilt/officer's and is of a different design to the ORs badge.

Thank you for pointing that error out, albeit inadvertently. The uniformology image shows a senior NCOs fur cap grenade of gilt metal. The officers badge was and should be shown as two piece as mentioned by cbuehler. I will try to get on to Bruce to get a correction made, as I’ve not been in contact with him since we did our last project together.

The badges depicted on each regimental plate are all intended to be those as listed in the first issue of Dress Regulations in 1883 as a direct result of the Childers Reforms date July 1881. The illustrations are all from actual genuine badges sold at auction.

[Parabellum]

Hi Toby,
No worries, while you're on do you know if this design was worn by other ranks in brass/gilding metal, or are the single metal badges snco/nco only ?
Neil.