Selous Scouts / RDR stable belt fabric

[rhodesianmilitaria]

Originally Posted by Loski

And you are choosing to ignore facts ie the slouch hats and beret.

You are choosing to ignore the fact that you make up items and refer to them as genuine.

Originally Posted by Loski

There was no reason not to use badges for units without the crown while stocks lasted the same go's for stable belts why waste money.

I'll ask you again.
What British made stable belts were being issued between 1974-1980?
What insignia was issued between 1974-1980 that wasn't made in Rhodesia?

Originally Posted by Loski

Im not going to respond to your posts because Im wasting my time.

Since deleted. Did you have a change of mind?

[Loski]

And I will say again as stated in my previous post British made RAR other ranks cap badges and RhAMC stable belts were issued between 1970 and 1980,
In my veiw if all components are new old stock then the item is original made where ever and as I do the fact that it is assembled at a later date then it is not a fake.
So if a collector buys a beret from one place and a badge from another and puts them together it is a fake.

Just give it a rest you have your opinion and ever since I have seen you posting on forums you have been pushing it on others and on occasion geting totd to go forth and multyply. I have my opinion just grow up and realise that I’m not the first to disagree with you and I’m not going to be the last.

End of.

[rhodesianmilitaria]

Just give it a rest you have your opinion and ever since I have seen you posting on forums you have been pushing it on others and on occasion geting totd to go forth and multyply. I have my opinion just grow up and realise that I’m not the first to disagree with you and I’m not going to be the last. End of.

I doubt that I am the one that needs to grow up, I'm not the one that airsofts or dresses up.

I only belong to three forums, one of which I hardly ever go to. The other is your little favourite the New Rhodesian Forum where some people got all upset because I disagreed with them encouraging the making of fake Rhodesian uniforms. The other one is of course here.

I can't recall anyone telling me to go forth and multiply on forums but after 17 years on the net I'm used to the 'heroes' behind the keyboards so it doesn't bother me.

I'm a genuine collector. I don't alter anything, I don't take anything off uniforms, berets etc or add anything. How I receive it is how I keep it. If I move it on then the next person receives it just the same as I when I did. The only thing I ever had done to a uniform was to have it drycleaned.

[Loski]

Originally Posted by rhodesianmilitaria

I doubt that I am the one that needs to grow up, I'm not the one that airsofts or dresses up.

I only belong to three forums, one of which I hardly ever go to. The other is your little favourite the New Rhodesian Forum where some people got all upset because I disagreed with them encouraging the making of fake Rhodesian uniforms. The other one is of course here.

I can't recall anyone telling me to go forth and multiply on forums but after 17 years on the net I'm used to the 'heroes' behind the keyboards so it doesn't bother me.

I'm a genuine collector. I don't alter anything, I don't take anything off uniforms, berets etc or add anything. How I receive it is how I keep it. If I move it on then the next person receives it just the same as I when I did. The only thing I ever had done to a uniform was to have it drycleaned.

You were refered to as a pompous prat on this forum in the not too distant past if its any help.
Goodnight and good bye

[Blue Puttees]

Originally Posted by rhodesianmilitaria

I'm a genuine collector. I don't alter anything, I don't take anything off uniforms, berets etc or add anything. How I receive it is how I keep it. If I move it on then the next person receives it just the same as I when I did. The only thing I ever had done to a uniform was to have it drycleaned.

Unfortunately many collectors are no longer this way. This is particularly so among WW II collectors.

[rhodesianmilitaria]

Originally Posted by Loski

You were refered to as a pompous prat on this forum in the not too distant past if its any help.
Goodnight and good bye

As I said 'heroes' behind the keyboards.

[Loski]

Originally Posted by Blue Puttees

Unfortunately many collectors are no longer this way. This is particularly so among WW II collectors.

Unfortunately some items especially Rhodesian militaria are becoming more scarce and not available complete or when they are they go for prices that are out of all but the most affluent collectors reach recently a Rhodesian Army Medical Corps 2nd pattern stable belt sold on ebay for GBP £300.00 and Selous Scouts items go for higher prices a stable belt can go for near GBP 500.00 or more to a known soldier, So we poorer collectors will purchase New old stock parts at more affordable prices from different places and assemble them, in my case I was given a Selous Scouts Stable belt buckle and now I’m trying to obtain a length of belting to complete it I’m not producing a fake for 2 reasons
1 in my opinion if all parts are NOS it is not a fake but a genuine item assembled from NOS at a later date.
2 In all reality it will never leave my collection but if I was to part with it I would make it clear that it was assembled from NOS by me.

[rhodesianmilitaria]

Originally Posted by Loski

Unfortunately some items especially Rhodesian militaria are becoming more scarce and not available complete or when they are they go for prices that are out of all but the most affluent collectors reach recently a Rhodesian Army Medical Corps 2nd pattern stable belt sold on ebay for GBP £300.00

Lol you take an extreme example and think that is the norm?

and Selous Scouts items go for higher prices a stable belt can go for near GBP 500.00 or more to a known soldier,

A lesson in the market that you can see fit to take it or leave it.
Market is driven by two things:

1) demand
2) rarity
Rarity without demand doesn't mean anything. In 10 years the Selous Scouts stable belt I have seen sell near GBP 500.00 was sold by James MacKenzie on ebay on 1 March this year. It was named and these are scarce with provenance.
Even Ron Reid-Daly's Selous Scouts stable belt and British SAS stable belt only sold for £485.

So taking an example of a belt with provenance to a trooper that sold for approximately the same amount as R R-D's two belts in my opinion is not a very good example.

In fact about 3 months ago on Bid or Buy one was listed for around US$170 or somewhere around there and never had one bid. It only sold on the second listing and I thought it was in very good condition.

Then again what would I know.

So we poorer collectors will purchase New old stock parts at more affordable prices from different places and assemble them, in my case I was given a Selous Scouts Stable belt buckle and now I’m trying to obtain a length of belting to complete it I’m not producing a fake for 2 reasons
1 in my opinion if all parts are NOS it is not a fake but a genuine item assembled from NOS at a later date.
2 In all reality it will never leave my collection but if I was to part with it I would make it clear that it was assembled from NOS by me.

Yeah sure. So you're going to live forever?