Mazeas Corrections

[Bill A]

Mazeas C 15 shows the wrong pattern shoulder title. GO 151/1928 indicates the title is brass, curved down in 1/2 inch high letters. (The same title as worn by the First Hussars.)

[Bill A]

M 106, Le Régiment de Hull is noted as approved by GO 3/1922. A subsequent revised order is listed as GO 46/1928.

[Bill A]

Mazeas M48, Middlesex Light Infantry collars. The collars shown in Mazeas do not include 135 above the MLI. The collars extant that have been recorded include the CEF number.
Does anyone have MLI collars without the 135 number?

[Doug N]

Originally Posted by Bill A

M 106, Le Régiment de Hull is noted as approved by GO 3/1922. A subsequent revised order is listed as GO 46/1928.

Bill,

I think this is a circumstance which is fairly common in the Mazeas book. The illustrations will show cap, collars, & titles & list a single G.O. There were many regiments where caps & collars were authourized in the early 1920's, but unit tiles not authourized until the late 1920's.

The Reg't de Hull was one of these. G.O 3/1922 speaks to caps & collars. The ammending G.O. 46 /1928 speaks to gilt & silver officers badges & shoulder titles.

There are many others. For example:
York Regiment (M 108). Cap & collars G.O. 71/1922; titles G.O. 89/1928.
Argylll Light Infantry (M 31) Cap & collars G.O. 91/1923; titles G.O. 84/1928.
Seaforth Highlanders (M 109a) Cap & collars G.O. 111/1923; titles G.O. 94/1928.

[Phillip Herring]

M6 Canadian Grenadier Guards
I think he has the incorrect cypher. There are subtle differences between the King George V and King George VI cyphers as they appear on these badges.

King George V
King George VI (right hand image)

Phil

[Bill A]

In Mazeas Pre-1914 book, page 160, HP 280 and HP 281 have the mottos transposed. They should be switched between the helmet plates. Further, if the catalogue number for helmet plates and badges is meant to be chronological, the sequence should be reversed. HP 281 was the predecessor of HP 280. The sequence is correct for the cap badges.

[Bill A]

Mazeas 1920-1952 Colchester and Hants Regiment, M114 contains an error. The numeral "1" is not included in the drawing.

[DavidS]

Originally Posted by Bill A

Mazeas 1920-1952 Colchester and Hants Regiment, M114 contains an error. The numeral "1" is not included in the drawing.

Not really an error. This badge does not always have the #1 (see related thread).

[Bill A]

Hi David, The badge without the 1 is also without the 25.
In the LAC file the first badge 1/25 is attached as a sample of the badge. On the card it indicates the 1/25 was not to be included in the badge design. So, the question is, why do examples of the 1/25 badge exist? The pattern without the 1/25 is shown in that thread and is listed in Mazeas as M114a.

[Bill A]

I guess in the strictest sense of the word, the badge is a variety, but un-approved. The error I am referring to is the drawing for the Mazeas badge M114. He included the 25, but there is no "1" above the 25 in the drawing.

[Bill A]

Mazeas lists the Cadet Services badge in both the Pre-1914 and 1920-1950 book. In the Pre-1914 book it is catalogued as CD 1. In the 1920-1950 book it is catalogued as CD 2. The drawing shows the same badge. In the Pre-1914 book CD 2 is the Mississauga Horse No 375 Cadet Corps.

[Phillip Herring]

Mazeas has completely omitted these badges.

Phil

[Bill A]

I have never seen that pattern before. They appear to be an officer's.

[Phillip Herring]

Originally Posted by Bill A

I have never seen that pattern before. They appear to be an officer's.

The cap badge has a flat back, but it appears to be gilding metal rather than gilt.

Phil

[cdndragoon]

on p28, it shows the RCD HP.41 with springbok collar dogs, dating them 1895.

Except that the event that prompted the RCD to adopt the springbok as their badge didn't occur until 1900 (during their Boer War deployment).

The version shown in Mazeas 1920-50 is more correct, dating the larger, 'cutthroat', collar dogs 1901-1904.

I've seen sellers make this error in marking their products, dating their springbok badges as pre-1900. Take note, all sellers, that any pre-1900 badges should be royal cypher only, with a mix of cypher and springbok until 1910!

Cheers!