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Old 16-10-18, 01:46 PM
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Default Early RN officers cap badge

Very early cap badge probably no later than WW1. Considerably smaller than normal later type badge shown as reference, these are really very scarce. Asking £50 ,friends and family ,postage in UK included in price.
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Old 16-10-18, 03:07 PM
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Is it not a later WW2 beret badge?

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Old 16-10-18, 04:14 PM
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Old 16-10-18, 05:07 PM
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Is it not a later WW2 beret badge?

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I believe the red central jewel is pre c.1920
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Old 17-10-18, 05:38 AM
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Jerry, thatís my understanding as well.

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Old 17-10-18, 07:05 AM
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I would be of the opinion that some manufacturers continued to produce Tudor crown badges with red central jewels beyond 1920, they were certainly still being sold and worn after that year.
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Old 17-10-18, 12:22 PM
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Though of course such things are notset in stone....
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Old 17-10-18, 12:59 PM
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Very true indeed, for example, you could certainly go to your tailor and purchase a badge that may have been "in stock" for a number years, back in those days, it was a minor and I dare say, insignificant detail to many.
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Old 17-10-18, 01:35 PM
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Default RN hatbadge

All this is academic and l for one would not be happy if my new hat that l ordered in the period after 1920, came back with a noticeably smaller badge than all my contemporaries. You can surmise until the cows come home but if people are so knowledgeable then could someone please show me another small badge with a red jewel that was purchased after 1920!. This was purchased many years ago from a family with other accouterments including his Victorian hat badge which made perfect sense to me as early badges were smaller at that time and he transitioned from one to the other.
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Old 17-10-18, 04:50 PM
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Default RN Hatbadge

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Old 18-10-18, 06:12 AM
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Yes, that was a lovely badge at a very good price IMHO.
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Old 18-10-18, 07:37 AM
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It is academic, but, then I was actually referring to the red central jewel on badges, military and naval, in general and not your particular badge, which I would certainly be very happy with.
The colour of the central jewel is a very minor point, but, styles and trends came and went, the actual size of the badge would certainly not be a minor issue.


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All this is academic and l for one would not be happy if my new hat that l ordered in the period after 1920, came back with a noticeably smaller badge than all my contemporaries. You can surmise until the cows come home but if people are so knowledgeable then could someone please show me another small badge with a red jewel that was purchased after 1920!. This was purchased many years ago from a family with other accouterments including his Victorian hat badge which made perfect sense to me as early badges were smaller at that time and he transitioned from one to the other.
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I would be of the opinion that some manufacturers continued to produce Tudor crown badges with red central jewels beyond 1920, they were certainly still being sold and worn after that year.
Would you be kind enough to supply evidence please? Speculation is one thing, but evidence is another.
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Old 18-10-18, 07:18 PM
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Of course there always exceptions. The cap shown below was worn after WW2.
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Old 19-10-18, 05:46 AM
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No doubt there were stock of badges which continued to be issued and used after 1920 but if I remember correctly, in 1920, the blue jewel on new badges was actually written into the dress regs. There must have been a cross over and I'm sure not all storemen would have known.
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