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Old 10-02-12, 02:52 PM
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Hi Guys,

Does anybody have any idea about this cap and badge combination? I was thinking possibly an unofficial badge worn in service or some kind of Merchant Marine badge?

They have been together forever, as far as i know, they belonged to one Edward (Ted) Green.

Its a soft top navy coloured cap with a black band. It has a simple, lugged, fouled anchor badge with heavy polishing wear (3.5x2.5cm). It has a black leather peak.

Label inside reads ''DVR Green E 56255'' (last 5 could be a 3 or 6). Was he a driver or a diver?

He died recently, aged in his 80s. He was a cousin of one of my friends, she gave me the cap.

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Hi Phil
I don't know what the DVR is, but I expect it is 'Driver'. I believe the cap badge is for a Dockyard Police constable if it is in white metal. The old South African DP wore the same badge in the pre-republic days.
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Old 10-02-12, 08:52 PM
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Hi Alex, thanks for your reply. The badge is in brass. I thought that driver could be the most likely meaning of DVR. Police had not occured to me, it has been suggested to me that it could be related to tug boats or harbour authorities?

The owner was a Southend man and we have several areas that are, or were, ports and harbours not far away. Harwich and Felixstowe are only a short drive away.

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Tilbury Docks and the Port of London Authority have been suggested. Has anybody else got any ideas?

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Tilbury Docks and the Port of London Authority have been suggested. Has anybody else got any ideas?

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Phil,

Until fairly recently (mid 1990's) Tilbury Docks and the Port of London Authority were one and the same. In other words the PLA were the port authority for Tilbury and that dock simply formed part of their dock system. The cap looks as if it is quite old so I would discount the PLA who had (and still have) their own Coat of Arms which has always featured on the caps of their uniformed staff. Many of the Borough/Town Councils and Haven authorities on the Essex coast employed uniformed staff in their small harbours. Some still do. The liklihood is that the owner of the cap worked for one of them or alternatively he may have been a fisherman or similar and simply wore the old cap and put on it a generic badge to signify his maritime association. I fear that this may be one that you will not get to the bottom of. The cap and badge may simply be a "marriage" with no connection with the other.

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It could be a cap for a civilian driver employed by the RN. The RAF has a similar pattern, worn with an eagle and crown.
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Hi Dave.

I think you are right, it may well remain a mystery. The one man that may be able to tell me, hates me.

Southend on Sea Pier and Foreshore officers are a possibility.

Hi Dragon, I like that idea, I will look into it, thanks.

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