Panzer Schirmmutze - WWII German Armoured Troops Forage Cap. - British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

leigh kitchen · #1 01-02-19, 01:21 PM

Another of my rather the worse for wear caps, affordable for me because of its somewhat less than pristine condition.
Identified as a "panzer" cap by the pink "waffenfarbe" arm of service piping it would've been worn during the 1933 - 45 period.

leigh kitchen · #2 01-02-19, 01:22 PM

The aluminium insignia:

mm1 · #3 01-02-19, 01:32 PM

Very nice Leigh...Mark

leigh kitchen · #4 01-02-19, 01:46 PM

Yes, I'll just view the damage as lending "character".
Notice the repairs to the top?
I read years ago in American publications about filling a moth hole with a blob of glue ("Elmer's glue" was the one that used to be mentioned), shaving the nap of the cloth and pressing the shaved fibres down on to the glue to camouflage the hole.
It's not something I've done, I think if I camouflaged any damage there'd have to be a lot of it and I'd insert rather than glue a matching fabric in the hole.

Hawthorn · #5 01-02-19, 02:24 PM

Leigh,

I don't think the damage distracts from the cap at all, I had an Infantry version of the same cap myself which was in a much worse state than this. Adds to the character in my opinion.

Simon.

leigh kitchen · #6 01-02-19, 02:41 PM

I certainly prefer slightly damaged or rusted preserved originality to the repaired, repainted, badges or transfers replaced approach to the restoration of caps and hemets.

54Bty · #7 01-02-19, 03:28 PM

I think you will find that this is an NCOs cap, not an Officers.

Marc

leigh kitchen · #8 01-02-19, 03:35 PM

My mistake - Schirmmutze is a term for an officers cap?
I know it's not an officer's cap (I don't have access to my purchase notes or books at the moment and can't remember the correct terminology).

54Bty · #9 01-02-19, 03:56 PM

Schirmmütze, is peaked cap.
I assumed you thought it was an Officers.

Marc

MH331 · #10 01-02-19, 03:57 PM

Schirmutze is used for both NCOs and Officers. Its a long time since I collected German stuff but I recall that pink(rose) Waffenfarbe was also used by Anti Tank units?

leigh kitchen · #11 01-02-19, 04:10 PM

I merely dabbled with the dark side as a little sideline to British militaria and I've forgotten a lot of what I knew.
Wasn't the waffenfarbe for anti tank artillery including self propelled guns the artillery red? Did it change during WWII as did the waffenfarbe for other arms?