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Old 30-10-18, 08:05 PM
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Default Opinions Please on Cast KC Parachute Regiment Beret Badges

I know cast badges, particularly Para Regt items, have previously proven to be a contentious issue on the forum but I would appreciate members input on these two examples.
Having never handled an example with provenance I have always been dubious of the brooch pin example primarily, but not solely, because of the pin fitting itself. That said there is meant to be some connection to a Major ‘Woody’ Rowtree (or Rowntree) 156 Para Bn. (Not researched. I am still trying to find my notes on the badge/ownership history as related to me by the seller although he was not specific if the ownership was wartime or post war.)
Also the brooch pin construction appears similar to some other wartime badges (not Para) I have looked at – but then again I am not sure if such construction has advanced or changed much since the war.
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Old 30-10-18, 09:02 PM
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It has been cast using the extended wingtip blobby fake as the former from which it has been made.
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Old 31-10-18, 07:26 AM
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Agreed, I think the brooch is completely spurious.


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It has been cast using the extended wingtip blobby fake as the former from which it has been made.
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Old 31-10-18, 08:33 PM
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Thanks for that.

Any thoughts on the lugged example?
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Old 31-10-18, 09:04 PM
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Wing tips extend to much on both .
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Old 01-11-18, 09:11 AM
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Get your money back!

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Thanks for that.

Any thoughts on the lugged example?
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Old 01-11-18, 10:36 AM
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Lol !!!!! .....that's a top idea !!
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Old 02-11-18, 07:52 PM
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Thanks again. Another two for the should have known better box!
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Old 09-11-18, 09:01 PM
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It has been cast using the extended wingtip blobby fake as the former from which it has been made.
The extended wingtip is the only detail it has in common with the fake you are referring to. The shroudlines and the feathers on either side of the parachute are completely different though. I kinda like it.
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Old 09-11-18, 09:31 PM
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The extended wingtip is the only detail it has in common with the fake you are referring to. The shroudlines and the feathers on either side of the parachute are completely different though. I kinda like it.
It also has the blob on the left wing mate!
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Old 10-11-18, 02:41 AM
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It also has the blob on the left wing mate!
Not the second one shown.

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Old 13-11-18, 09:05 PM
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Thanks for the further opinions - I'll not throw the lugged example away just yet in case.
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