1770 Sgt Ernest H Green. 7th London Regiment.

[High Wood]

Originally Posted by Mike_H

High Wood- post 12 - re the hand-written notes - those are/were my notes made in the late 1980's from examining all of the battalion marks in the IWM insignia collection. The notes were photocopied and kept in the old Department of Exhibits & Firearms at the IWM as departmental reference. I don't know when the traces of the shapes were made but presumably they are from actual example in the collection. The company colour strips worn below the battalion mark were A - Blue, B-Green, C - Red, and
D - Yellow, and were constant throughout the whole 47th Division, they were adopted in May 1917.

Mike

Mike,

that is very interesting. The photocopies that I have were given to me by a militaria dealer who used to stall out on a Saturday on the concourse at London Bridge station. He was not particular interested in research side of things but he knew that I was, so he gave them to me. There are about a dozen pages from memory, possibly more. Interestingly the pages are numbered with quite high numbers, suggesting that there were at least 200 previous pages; obviously not all on the London Regiment.

Simon.

[3dg]

The button.
It's unusual practice for OR's to have Regimental buttons in this era.
Great photo!
Chris

[grumpy]

Not really.

see:

https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/...omment-1355196

for an in-depth discussion such as the GWF used to run.

[grumpy]

a quick summary ............ same source.

GS buttons in gilding metal the norm for infantry of the Line, the exceptions being usually but not exclusively Senior NCOs.

Regimental versions noted in at least one battalion of the following: Royal Scots, Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders, Border Regt, Notts & Derbys, KOYLI, Ox and Bucks, Welsh, HLI.

Most 'Rifles' including TF battalions had black buttons of regimental design for all ranks, but not all, and not always.

6th DLI had black buttons.

Foot Guards usually had regimental pattern buttons. Exceptions have been noted, and even 'mixed' buttons on one garment.

MGC had regimental buttons, but not universally during the war period.

[3dg]

Thank you Grumpy.
It's still the minority, and unusual to see in period photos, but an interesting link, many thanks to you.
Chris

[High Wood]

Originally Posted by 3dg

The button.
It's unusual practice for OR's to have Regimental buttons in this era.
Great photo!
Chris

I think that Ernest Green enlisted as a territorial before the war, which may account for him having regimental buttons. He disembarked in France on the 18th March 1915 with the initial draft of men from the 1/7th battalion London Regiment.

[Postwarden]

An example of the 7th London title.

Jon

[High Wood]

Jon, thank you for posting a picture of the cloth shoulder title.